Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-08 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 02/02/07, Benjamin Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Are there any OS graphics programmes? one of my students was asking. > > Two I know of are the GIMP and Inscape. Both seem pretty good to me, > but then I don't know that much about graphics. Sorry I'm late to the party on this thread! I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew Price
On 06/02/07 10:10, Daniel Watkins wrote: > Andrew Price wrote: >>> I know of at least one module in my computer science course that is >>> being taught specifically with Microsoft tools. "Building Reliable Web >>> Applications" I think it's called. Makes me wonder if MS are paying the >>> Comp Sci

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-06 Thread Daniel Watkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Price wrote: > I know of at least one module in my computer science course that is > being taught specifically with Microsoft tools. "Building Reliable Web > Applications" I think it's called. Makes me wonder if MS are paying the > Comp Sci depa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-03 Thread Robin Menneer
Apologies, I've at last got f-spot to load (from a different google entry). But I'm afraid that it is nowhere near as powerful as iphoto. Anyone with other suggestions for a program that has all the facilities of iphoto but is not as versitile or as complicated as Gimp. Robin On 2/3/07, Robin M

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-03 Thread Robin Menneer
Someone loaded it for me, it seems to be Daffy Drake. I was trying to download F-spot as being recommended to be the linux equivalent to iphoto which we use alot very satisfactorily (we have a mac mini and a pc laptop. I'm trying to wean myself off the mac more as Jobs gets closer to Gates in the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-03 Thread Eamonn Sullivan
On 2/3/07, Robin Menneer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've had a skirmish with f-spot and cannot get the download button to do > other than to send me to a log-in page which won't recognise a user name - > which one is this ? I'm lower in the intelligence scale than your two dear > ladies. Help p

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-03 Thread Robin Menneer
On 2/3/07, Eamonn Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/3/07, Robin Menneer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the tips - Inskscape is already on my ubuntu package and I'll > look at it. Is there any equivalent to iphoto, a brilliant apple mac > program for simply tweaking photos ? Ro

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-03 Thread Andy
On 02/02/07, London School of Puppetry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > or even put it onto some computers- are there CD's? There are most certianly CDs. You can either dowload an ISO and burn it your self, or order via shipit (theres an edubuntu shippit now). See: O

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-03 Thread Eamonn Sullivan
On 2/3/07, Robin Menneer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the tips - Inskscape is already on my ubuntu package and I'll > look at it. Is there any equivalent to iphoto, a brilliant apple mac > program for simply tweaking photos ? Robin My wife and my mother ("Folder? What's a folder?") h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-03 Thread Robin Menneer
Thanks for the tips - Inskscape is already on my ubuntu package and I'll look at it. Is there any equivalent to iphoto, a brilliant apple mac program for simply tweaking photos ? Robin On 2/3/07, Caroline Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: > On 02/02/07, norman <[EMAIL

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-03 Thread Caroline Ford
Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: > On 02/02/07, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 21:53 +, Benjamin Webb wrote: >> > Are there any OS graphics programmes? one of my students was asking. > >> There is a Gimp users group - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> I g

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-03 Thread Robin Menneer
For very simple stuff, don't ignore Draw in Open Office which integrates nicely with Oo Writer. It has hiddden depths and does for those who find Gimp too complicated. On 2/3/07, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 21:53 +, Benjamin Webb wrote: > > > > > Are there

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-03 Thread norman
> > On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 21:53 +, Benjamin Webb wrote: > > > > > Are there any OS graphics programmes? one of my students was asking. > > > > There is a Gimp users group - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > I get the impression that, in most respects, Gimp is equivalent to > > Photoshop. I use Gimp fo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-02 Thread Martin Fitzpatrick
On 02/02/07, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 21:53 +, Benjamin Webb wrote: > > > > Are there any OS graphics programmes? one of my students was asking. > > There is a Gimp users group - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I get the impression that, in most respects, Gimp is equivale

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-02 Thread norman
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 21:53 +, Benjamin Webb wrote: > > > Are there any OS graphics programmes? one of my students was asking. > > Two I know of are the GIMP and Inscape. Both seem pretty good to me, > but then I don't know that much about graphics. There is a Gimp users group - [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-02 Thread Toby Smithe
I have decided not to get involved in this discussion as it makes me sad. Sad that it is true, and sad that we sit here discussing how it is true whilst not much is or can be done. Oh, and sad that the values of industry are so fickle. "Marketing", "demand", "training" and "support". The last two

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-02 Thread Toby Smithe
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 21:53 +, Benjamin Webb wrote: > > > Are there any OS graphics programmes? one of my students was asking. > > Two I know of are the GIMP and Inscape. Both seem pretty good to me, > but then I don't know that much about graphics. And Xara LX :) -- Help me get to Venezuel

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-02 Thread Benjamin Webb
> > Are there any OS graphics programmes? one of my students was asking. Two I know of are the GIMP and Inscape. Both seem pretty good to me, but then I don't know that much about graphics. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-02 Thread LeeUKHA
> The other argument I hear is that we should be using the system and > tools that students expect to see in the big wide world once they have > graduated, and that, of course is Microsoft stuff. That's funny... Uni's should use Vista because that's what businesses use... LOL... I work for a very

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-02 Thread London School of Puppetry
On 02/02/07, David Morley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Simple answer yes! More complex response I don't think the same kinda thing that is being offered by your uni will be practical as it takes money away from the projects. However they can continue in the fashion they currently are and win ove

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-02 Thread David Morley
Simple answer yes! More complex response I don't think the same kinda thing that is being offered by your uni will be practical as it takes money away from the projects. However they can continue in the fashion they currently are and win over one school/college/uni at a time. This is a much long

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-02 Thread Caroline Ford
Tony Arnold wrote: >> >> The other argument I hear is that we should be using the system and >> tools that students expect to see in the big wide world once they have >> graduated, and that, of course is Microsoft stuff. My argument is that >> if we taught our students Linux, and associated tools,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-02 Thread Tony Arnold
Andy, Andy wrote: > I am not entirely sure why my University is forwarding me junk mail > from Microsoft, I don't remember asking for it. Interesting. I went to a presentation recently about the pain we will be going through to move to Vista at our University. At the end I commented that it was

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-02 Thread Andrew Price
On 02/02/07 18:21, Andy wrote: > It appears Microsoft are trying to buy off the young coders. Why is > Canonical, Red Hat and other Linux vendors not doing similar things? > If this works we will have no programmers for Linux, and we have few > enough Linux users as it is! I know of at least one m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-02 Thread Daniel Watkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andy wrote: > I am not entirely sure why my University is forwarding me junk mail > from Microsoft, I don't remember asking for it. You may well find that Microsoft sponsor some part of your uni, giving them the right to do this. Here at Warwick the De

[ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-02 Thread Andy
Hi all. I just got an email from the Microsoft Marketing department, well technically the sender was my University and it wasn't from the marketing guys, or at least they don't call them selves that. I am not entirely sure why my University is forwarding me junk mail from Microsoft, I don't remem