[ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Byte Soup
Hi folks, In light of some recent discussions I've seen on this list it seems a lot of folks are keen to promote Linux and see it deployed and used more especially on the desktop. I've been using Ubuntu daily (plus some other distros on and off) for a few years now. I love it and wouldn't switch

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Paul Sutton
On 13/06/13 11:25, Byte Soup wrote: Hi folks, In light of some recent discussions I've seen on this list it seems a lot of folks are keen to promote Linux and see it deployed and used more especially on the desktop. I've been using Ubuntu daily (plus some other distros on and off) for a few

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Liam Proven
On 13 June 2013 11:25, Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can agree that partially the success of windows has made it a target for criminals and malware. So if for whatever reason tomorrow we saw a massive uptake then where would that leave us? Would it really be a good thing? I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Liam Proven
On 13 June 2013 11:48, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote: On 13/06/13 11:25, Byte Soup wrote: Hi folks, In light of some recent discussions I've seen on this list it seems a lot of folks are keen to promote Linux and see it deployed and used more especially on the desktop. I've been using

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Byte Soup
On 13 June 2013 14:11, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 June 2013 11:25, Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can agree that partially the success of windows has made it a target for criminals and malware. So if for whatever reason tomorrow we saw a massive uptake then

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Paul Sutton
On 13/06/13 14:15, Liam Proven wrote: On 13 June 2013 11:48, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote: On 13/06/13 11:25, Byte Soup wrote: Hi folks, In light of some recent discussions I've seen on this list it seems a lot of folks are keen to promote Linux and see it deployed and used more

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Tony Arnold
On 13/06/13 14:56, Byte Soup wrote: * OS X has not been compromised. There are no OS X viruses in the wild. (Yes, there are Trojans, but that's different - they don't spread unaided.) OS X can be compromised. Doesn't really matter whether it's technically a virus or a trojan, users ata,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Simon Greenwood
OS X can be compromised. Doesn't really matter whether it's technically a virus or a trojan, users ata, credentials bank details etc are all at risk. Of course it can be compromised. Weak passwords, the occasional but rare application exploit, or user level exploits derived from social

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Bea Groves
Hi! I'm President of the Institute for Learning (go look it up!), course tutor for both the PTLLS and DTLLS teacher training courses, and am a teacher/trainer who has been 'in the business' for 33 years. One of the topics I teach is ICT, I'm also a Ubuntu user - there are no MS products on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Liam Proven
On 13 June 2013 14:56, Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 June 2013 14:11, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: Hey don't tar me with that brush, im no windows advocate! I just thought if I were a crim (and im not) I'd look at the most popular platform. This *is* the red herring. It's

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Liam Proven
On 13 June 2013 15:02, Tony Arnold tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk wrote: OS X can be compromised. *All* operating systems can be compromised. Doesn't really matter whether it's technically a virus or a trojan Yes it does. It matters very very much indeed. This too is a red herring. On

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Tony Arnold
Liam, On 13/06/13 16:37, Liam Proven wrote: On 13 June 2013 15:02, Tony Arnold tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk wrote: OS X can be compromised. *All* operating systems can be compromised. Doesn't really matter whether it's technically a virus or a trojan Yes it does. It matters very very

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Byte Soup
On 13 June 2013 16:33, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 June 2013 14:56, Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 June 2013 14:11, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: Hey don't tar me with that brush, im no windows advocate! I just thought if I were a crim (and im not) I'd

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Liam Proven
On 13 June 2013 17:04, Tony Arnold tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk wrote: Liam, On 13/06/13 16:37, Liam Proven wrote: On 13 June 2013 15:02, Tony Arnold tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk wrote: OS X can be compromised. *All* operating systems can be compromised. Doesn't really matter whether it's

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Liam Proven
On 13 June 2013 17:04, Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com wrote: Ok we'll agree to disagree :-P As I said: falsify it, then. Refute me. In other words, provide a reasoned case as to why I am incorrect. Please. If I am wrong, I want to know about it, so that I can correct the flaws in my thinking. So

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread alan c
On 13/06/13 11:25, Byte Soup wrote: I have been wondering on one thing though, would we really want to see a greater uptake of Linux by the general population? I do not think of Ubuntu as 'Linux'. Ubuntu it is supremely easy, Linux is not and never has been easy. I have no doubt whatsoever

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Tony Arnold
Liam, On 13/06/13 17:20, Liam Proven wrote: On 13 June 2013 17:04, Tony Arnold tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk wrote: Liam, On 13/06/13 16:37, Liam Proven wrote: On 13 June 2013 15:02, Tony Arnold tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk wrote: OS X can be compromised. *All* operating systems can be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Tony Arnold
Alan, On 13/06/13 17:32, alan c wrote: As long as I know what CTRL-ALT-T does, I dont care! I didn't, but I do now! A useful tip! Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold,Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093 Head of IT Security,Fax: +44 (0) 705 344 3082 University of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Imagine if Linux become massively popular?

2013-06-13 Thread Byte Soup
On 13 June 2013 17:22, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 June 2013 17:04, Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com wrote: Ok we'll agree to disagree :-P As I said: falsify it, then. Refute me. In other words, provide a reasoned case as to why I am incorrect. Please. If I am wrong, I want to