Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data

2012-11-18 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
I'm responding to both Andres and Alan, because my answers are related. On 2012-11-17 21:02, Andres Muniz wrote: wow this shred stuff is really interesting. If i have EXT4 running on a solid state drive (ssd), does it mean that doing a shred will significantly reduce the life of the ssd? It

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data

2012-11-18 Thread Andres Muniz
- Mensaje original - I'm responding to both Andres and Alan, because my answers are related. On 2012-11-17 21:02, Andres Muniz wrote: wow this shred stuff is really interesting. If i have EXT4 running on a solid state drive (ssd), does it mean that doing a shred will

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data

2012-11-18 Thread Alan Pope
On 18/11/12 10:16, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: On 2012-11-16 17:30, Alan Pope wrote: More passes don't really give you any benefit. A simple single run of dd is sufficient. That depends against what you are trying to defend. It is possible, with specialist tools, to recover data after a single

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data

2012-11-18 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2012-11-18 20:26, Alan Pope wrote: On 18/11/12 10:16, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: That depends against what you are trying to defend. It is possible, with specialist tools, to recover data after a single wipe. People say that a lot. Prove it. I love being proved wrong:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data

2012-11-18 Thread Alan Pope
On 18/11/12 21:35, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: https://www.anti-forensics.com/disk-wiping-one-pass-is-enough/ Ooh, handy link, thanks for that! :D Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data

2012-11-17 Thread Andres Muniz
- Mensaje original - On 16/11/12 17:00, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: Only with shred you get useful progress output, and can optionally do more passes with more secure data. shred is part of coreutils and is included on all Ubuntu Live CDs. More passes don't really give you any

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data

2012-11-16 Thread Daniel Case
I always use DBAN (Boot and Nuke) to securely delete a drive, remember that deleting a user and adding a new one is by no means secure, the next person who has it can easily use completely free recovery methods to get back the data that was on that drive. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data

2012-11-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16/11/12 13:55, Daniel Case wrote: I always use DBAN (Boot and Nuke) to securely delete a drive, remember that deleting a user and adding a new one is by no means secure, the next person who has it can easily use completely free recovery methods to get back the data that was on that drive.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data

2012-11-16 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 16/11/12 14:55, Alan Pope wrote: but then discovered dd'ing zeroes over it from a live CD was sufficient, so I just do that from a live CD/USB now. Can you expand on that for a newbie? -- Registered Linux User no 240308 GBP's alternative computing:http://gbplinuxfoss.blogspot.com/ Say

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data

2012-11-16 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2012-11-16 15:36, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 16/11/12 14:55, Alan Pope wrote: but then discovered dd'ing zeroes over it from a live CD was sufficient, so I just do that from a live CD/USB now. Can you expand on that for a newbie? dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda You might use bs=1M or

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data

2012-11-16 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 16/11/12 17:00, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: On 2012-11-16 15:36, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 16/11/12 14:55, Alan Pope wrote: but then discovered dd'ing zeroes over it from a live CD was sufficient, so I just do that from a live CD/USB now. Can you expand on that for a newbie? dd

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data

2012-11-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16/11/12 17:00, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: Only with shred you get useful progress output, and can optionally do more passes with more secure data. shred is part of coreutils and is included on all Ubuntu Live CDs. More passes don't really give you any benefit. A simple single run of dd is

[ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data

2012-11-15 Thread David Smith
Supposing I have a netbook loaded with Xubuntu that I want to sell on (shameless plug, eBay item 290811097220). If it was running a Microsoft OS, I'd create a new user, remove the old one, look around for and delete any data lurking in the root and find an app (CCleaner for example) that'd do

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Securely delete data

2012-11-15 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2012-11-15 12:55, David Smith wrote: Supposing I have a netbook loaded with Xubuntu that I want to sell on (shameless plug, eBay item 290811097220). If it was running a Microsoft OS, I'd create a new user, remove the old one, look around for and delete any data lurking in the root and