Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows makes PCs cheaper to buy! ... we need to respond [Dell crapware]

2007-07-01 Thread Mark Harrison
A few responses to the various comments: - It's no co-incidence that this message came at the same time that Macs are banging on about the same issue :-) - I'm not convinced that leaflets are the right place for this. - I agree with Matthew that this isn't the right "offensive message". I'd in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows makes PCs cheaper to buy! ... we need to respond [Dell crapware]

2007-06-30 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Quoting Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Yup - boys and girls - it's unpalatable but it needs addressing. > > Manufacturers like Dell now receive as much money in subsidies and fees > from companies like AOL and McAfee for installing crapware on your new > Vista machine as they have to pay to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows makes PCs cheaper to buy! ... we need to respond [Dell crapware]

2007-06-30 Thread John Taylor
Alec Wright wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 13:11 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: I think we ought to be making a far bigger play of the whole "Crapware" thing, which has done a great job of introducing hidden costs to running Windows I expect people will start making crapware for ubuntu soon

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows makes PCs cheaper to buy! ... we need to respond [Dell crapware]

2007-06-30 Thread Alec Wright
On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 13:11 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: > I think we ought to be making a far bigger play of the whole "Crapware" > thing, which has done a great job of introducing hidden costs to running > Windows I expect people will start making crapware for ubuntu soon, with ads on the deskto

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows makes PCs cheaper to buy! ... we need to respond [Dell crapware]

2007-06-30 Thread Sean Miller
Mark Harrison wrote: > Yup - boys and girls - it's unpalatable but it needs addressing. > > Manufacturers like Dell now receive as much money in subsidies and fees > from companies like AOL and McAfee for installing crapware on your new > Vista machine as they have to pay to Microsoft for the Vis

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows makes PCs cheaper to buy! ... we need to respond [Dell crapware]

2007-06-30 Thread Keith Bowerman
On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 13:51 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: > > I think we ought to be making a far bigger play of the whole "Crapware" > > thing, which has done a great job of introducing hidden costs to running > > Windows: By a strange conincidence, as I was reading Chris' message on my ISP's webmai

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows makes PCs cheaper to buy! ... we need to respond [Dell crapware]

2007-06-30 Thread Chris Rowson
Fair points Mark, If you get a minute, pop this stuff onto the wiki - it'd be helpful to add these ideas to the leaflet concept. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Leaflets Cheers Chris On 30/06/07, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yup - boys and girls - it's unpalatable but it needs add

[ubuntu-uk] Windows makes PCs cheaper to buy! ... we need to respond [Dell crapware]

2007-06-30 Thread Mark Harrison
Yup - boys and girls - it's unpalatable but it needs addressing. Manufacturers like Dell now receive as much money in subsidies and fees from companies like AOL and McAfee for installing crapware on your new Vista machine as they have to pay to Microsoft for the Vista licence. I think we ought