Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-14 Thread Liam Proven
On 14 May 2012 20:41, Norman Silverstone wrote: > Many thanks to those who went to the trouble to help and guide me. I am > now a little older and a lot wiser. Without doubt, the easiest way to do > what I wanted is to open the box, disconnect the second drive, install > the OSs, test, reconnect t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-14 Thread Norman Silverstone
Many thanks to those who went to the trouble to help and guide me. I am now a little older and a lot wiser. Without doubt, the easiest way to do what I wanted is to open the box, disconnect the second drive, install the OSs, test, reconnect the second drive and close the box. Norman -- ubuntu-u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-14 Thread Liam Proven
On 14 May 2012 18:13, Barry Drake wrote: > On 14/05/12 13:41, Liam Proven wrote: >> >> That is true and correct, AFAICS, but to be honest, it would probably be >> easier just to reinstall. Norman: at a minimum, you need 2 partitions. I >> suggest you shrink the Windows partition by about half and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-14 Thread Andres Muniz
> space on your windows drive. If it is vista or win7 then I would > consider first asking windows to shrink ITSELF, you may get fewer > subsequent problems in windows then. > this probably was already mentioned but i would defragment windows first. As it doesn't need to fragment in ubuntu i o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-14 Thread Barry Drake
On 14/05/12 13:41, Liam Proven wrote: That is true and correct, AFAICS, but to be honest, it would probably be easier just to reinstall. Norman: at a minimum, you need 2 partitions. I suggest you shrink the Windows partition by about half and use the rest of the space for an Extended partition.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-14 Thread Liam Proven
On 13 May 2012 21:20, Barry Drake wrote: > On 13/05/12 21:03, Bill Baker wrote: >> >> Norman, please wait for further advice before trying my suggestion; but if >> this was my machine I would now boot directly to Ubuntu from the live CD & >> from there I would try "grub-install /dev/sda" [or sdx w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-13 Thread Neil Greenwood
Hi Norman, I think the only mistake you made (for future reference out to help others) was to install grub to the partition rather than the whole of the boot drive. To recover now, you boot the live CD and reinstall grub, as others have suggested. The complete list of instructions is on the grub

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-13 Thread Barry Drake
On 13/05/12 21:03, Bill Baker wrote: Norman, please wait for further advice before trying my suggestion; but if this was my machine I would now boot directly to Ubuntu from the live CD & from there I would try "grub-install /dev/sda" [or sdx where x is the boot drive] from a terminal. However,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-13 Thread Bill Baker
On Sun, 2012-05-13 at 20:45 +0100, Norman Silverstone wrote: > Barry, using gparted, the HDD containing Windows XP Pro was partitioned > as you described and all seemed well. The installation process was > started and do something else selected. The partition allocated ext4 was > chosen and then I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-13 Thread Norman Silverstone
Barry, using gparted, the HDD containing Windows XP Pro was partitioned as you described and all seemed well. The installation process was started and do something else selected. The partition allocated ext4 was chosen and then I was warned that I needed to indicate a boot partition so I chose this

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-13 Thread Norman Silverstone
> > I can understand and follow all that you say and, viewed > > theoretically, it is very good. Where I am at a complete loss is how > > to practically modify the partition containing Windows. I suppose I > > should read up on gparted before going any further. Norman > > gparted is easy! Fi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-13 Thread Barry Drake
On 13/05/12 16:47, Norman Silverstone wrote: I can understand and follow all that you say and, viewed theoretically, it is very good. Where I am at a complete loss is how to practically modify the partition containing Windows. I suppose I should read up on gparted before going any further. Norm

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-13 Thread Norman Silverstone
> > That's OK Barry, not to worry, time is on my side. I forget to mention > > that although I have used Ubuntu since Warty the emphasis is on used > > and not fiddled with. Instructions I can usually follow but age is not > > on my side (84 years young) Norman > > Right. I'm a kid of only 70

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-13 Thread Liam Proven
On 12 May 2012 17:38, Norman Silverstone wrote: > I have a new PC with two HDDs and I am trying to install Windows and > Ubuntu on one of the drives keeping the other for data and so on. In the > past I have dual booted many machines without any difficulty but this is > the first time I have tried

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-13 Thread Barry Drake
On 13/05/12 08:49, Norman Silverstone wrote: That's OK Barry, not to worry, time is on my side. I forget to mention that although I have used Ubuntu since Warty the emphasis is on used and not fiddled with. Instructions I can usually follow but age is not on my side (84 years young) Just a th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-13 Thread Barry Drake
On 13/05/12 08:49, Norman Silverstone wrote: That's OK Barry, not to worry, time is on my side. I forget to mention that although I have used Ubuntu since Warty the emphasis is on used and not fiddled with. Instructions I can usually follow but age is not on my side (84 years young) Norman Ri

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-13 Thread Norman Silverstone
> > Barry, I would be most grateful if you could point me in the right > > direction. I know that one of the options is to do something else. I > > have looked at that where the drives are listed but I am uncertain > > what to do thereafter. > > Got a lot to do tonight - it will be tomorrow a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-12 Thread alan c
On 12/05/12 21:04, Norman Silverstone wrote: Andy, all I know is that if there is one drive and the installer is instructed to install along side Windows, then the installer partitions the drive accordingly and gets on with the installation. So,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-12 Thread Barry Drake
On 12/05/12 18:39, Norman Silverstone wrote: Barry, I would be most grateful if you could point me in the right direction. I know that one of the options is to do something else. I have looked at that where the drives are listed but I am uncertain what to do thereafter. Norman Got a lot to d

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-12 Thread Norman Silverstone
> > Andy, all I know is that if there is one drive and the > installer is > instructed to install along side Windows, then the installer > partitions > the drive accordingly and gets on with the installation. So, > are you > suggesti

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-12 Thread Andy Braben
On 12 May 2012 19:42, Norman Silverstone wrote: > On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 18:47 +0100, Andy Braben wrote: > > > > > > On 12 May 2012 18:39, Norman Silverstone > > wrote: > > > > > > I have a new PC with two HDDs and I am trying to install > > Windows and > > > > Ubuntu on o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-12 Thread Norman Silverstone
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 18:47 +0100, Andy Braben wrote: > > > On 12 May 2012 18:39, Norman Silverstone > wrote: > > > > I have a new PC with two HDDs and I am trying to install > Windows and > > > Ubuntu on one of the drives keeping the other for data and >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-12 Thread Andy Braben
On 12 May 2012 18:39, Norman Silverstone wrote: > > > > I have a new PC with two HDDs and I am trying to install Windows and > > > Ubuntu on one of the drives keeping the other for data and so on. In > the > > > past I have dual booted many machines without any difficulty but this > is > > > the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-12 Thread Norman Silverstone
> > I have a new PC with two HDDs and I am trying to install Windows and > > Ubuntu on one of the drives keeping the other for data and so on. In the > > past I have dual booted many machines without any difficulty but this is > > the first time I have tried with a machine with 2 drives and there

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-12 Thread Barry Drake
On 12/05/12 17:38, Norman Silverstone wrote: I have a new PC with two HDDs and I am trying to install Windows and Ubuntu on one of the drives keeping the other for data and so on. In the past I have dual booted many machines without any difficulty but this is the first time I have tried with a ma

[ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

2012-05-12 Thread Norman Silverstone
I have a new PC with two HDDs and I am trying to install Windows and Ubuntu on one of the drives keeping the other for data and so on. In the past I have dual booted many machines without any difficulty but this is the first time I have tried with a machine with 2 drives and there are problems. Ins