Name less
They are shooting them for they are looting public property they are killing
the Kikuyus, because Raila built them to do so. What we need today is Raila to
stand up and denounce violence. And you can play with words all you want. And
let me add that even in Toronto here if you start to kill a sector of people
and loot their property they shoot to kill. Just try to do a silly thing in the
financial district in Toronto, like attempt to kidnap some body, they will not
even call a negotiator an ETF {Emergency Task Force} guy will show up and you
will be smoked out in a second. The Police is doing its job of protecting the
people with their property. And can you imagine if the Kikuyus continues to be
killed and the Police sits in its barracks, what would have you stated here? So
don't waste my time unless you have something tangible to tell me.
This is the time for Kenyans to stand up and back up their Police officers in
this very hard situation.
EM
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is under anarchy"
Groupe de Communication Mulindwas
"Avec Yoweri Museveni, L'Ouganda East Dans L'anarchie"
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From: Africare- NewPublications
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Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Mwananchi] Raila Odinga finally does it. MAY GOD GIVE US SANITY
AMIDST GLOOM
Mulindwa, you are the one who is being a LIAR!!
You don't understand what people say; not even what people write!! You don't
even understand what Kivuitu has said. If you do, can you please state clearly,
like Odhiambo did, what Kivuitu said??
And please could you provide these many fora with the transcript of Kivuitu's
statement? We would love to see it.
Please take note that on the ground security forces are shooting wananchi
dead, IF THEY, WANANCHI, WALK IN GROUPS, even IN GROUP OF TWO!! How can a
government issue order to security forces to shoot even people walking in
pair?? Is that what you are trying to promote in Kenya??
NO!, you are not going to promote that. If you do not know what is going on
on the ground, please seal your mouth!!
ARJP management
Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Steven Aseyo
I have a transcript of Mr. Kivuitu's speech, at what sentence did he state
that he was forced to announce a wrong result? Again as I told Ochieng you
people are not being help full here, you are doing the very same mistake some
of us were warning you during the campaign of simply making loose statements.
It is you fueling these deaths by being so casual liars on very serious matters.
EM
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is under anarchy"
Groupe de Communication Mulindwas
"Avec Yoweri Museveni, L'Ouganda East Dans L'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Aseno
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African Online Forum Dedicated to Information Exchange. ; Kenya Can ; Kenya
Canada ; New Vision ; Newvision Kenya ; CCR Kenya ; Madaraka Kenya ; KOL ; KCA
Main ; Kenya Pyla ; Siasa siasaKenya
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:20 AM
Subject: [Mwananchi] Raila Odinga finally does it. MAY GOD GIVE US SANITY
AMIDST GLOOM
Mr. Kioko,
I would stop to think for a second. You are outrightly very stupid in
your approach when the entire country is bleeding because of justice denied.
Electoral commission chairman has come up and publicly said that he was forced
to announce the wrong results. The EU and international fraternity have said
that the elections were not free and fair. Kenyans are angered because
democracy has been strungled, killed and burried.
For you to bring out Raila; the person who is just seeking fairness &
justice into the butchery & torching of Kenyans is insanity or grave stupidity
on your part. We are past campaign and debate time and we need some sanity in
dealing with this highly volatile issue.
Kibaki (owing to the evidence & rejection of electoral results by
commissioners & observers) is occupying the state house & the presidency
"illegitimately". In order for kenya to have peace, Kibaki needs to step
down/resign so that they can be at a common level of negotiations. negotiating
while Kibaki is "on that seat" means recognizing the "legitimacy" of his
presidency which is an insult to the principles of democracy Kenyans voted for
& are dying for. Kibaki is therefore responsible for the damage & genocide of
Kenyans at this dark hour. The longer Kibaki maintains a stubborn stance, the
more Kenyans will die. Raila is simply saying truth & justice must prevail.
What ill has raila committed in asking for justice? None! Before Bishop Tutu is
called upon by the kenyan clergy, the ills must be mentioned and addressed.
There's no point of reconcilliatory talks if this is not tackled. Kibaki has to
resign inorder for anything positive to be initiated. (No justice = No peace)
In addition to the above President Museveni of Uganda MUST restrain from
interfering with the affairs of Kenya. There are disturbing reports from the
ground; which this "oppressive government have banned the press from covering"
The evils are being hidden from the publics eyes. Kioko, may the blood of these
innocent victims haunt you forever as you continue to fuel propaganda & ethnic
hatred. I bet you are happy because your family or relatives havent been
butchered yet. Remember, Kenyans are dying...not just Luos & Kikuyus. You
better shut up & vanish from this forum. Let's all focus on peace &
reconcilliation....not for the sake of it, but by adopting the right approach.
This approach should not be a debate issue because we have more critical
because we have bigger things to sort out. The best approach is the "justice"
way which Kibaki should allow to continue by stepping down his rigged in and
illegitimate presidency.
kENYANS, WE ALSO WARN ANY OTHER OPPOSITION LEADERS ESPECIALLY ODM-K NOT
TO ENTER INTO ANY POWER SHARING DEALS WITH AN "ILLEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT" AS THAT
WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL INSULT TO DEMOCRACY, AN APPROVAL & BEING A PARTY TO THE
KILLINGS & ON GOING GENOCIDE. SUCH A COWARD ACT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A BETRAYAL
AND A SERIOUS LACK OF INTEGRITY TO THE PRINCIPLES OF JUSTICE, PEACE, DEMOCRACY
& HUMAN RIGHTS. WE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH OPPORTUNISTS & TRAITORS WHEN KENYANS ARE
DYING. I WARN THAT THIS WOULD STRETCH ETHNIC VIOLENCE TO UKAMBANI. WE DONT NEED
ANY MORE OF THIS. KENYANS LET'S CALL UPON SANITYUPON THE MINDS OF KIBAKI &
MICHUKI......
Fellow Kenyans, keep Kenya fervently in your prayers. I wish you all a
blessed new year. There's light at the end of the dark tunnell and the truth
will finally come out.
It's a sad New Year, but keep hope alive.
God bless you all.
Steve Aseno.
Africare- NewPublications <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Was wondering as well!! But then again it seems mere hate of Raila.
ARJP Management
Awasom Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ARE YOU NORMAL?
julius Kioko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://www.eastandard.net/news/?id=1143979826&cid=159
Raila Odinga, the millionaire who usurped the identity of the poor
to campaign, finally solved a problem I never thought possible to solve in a
day. The poor slums of Nairobi, where the poor people live, are no more!
The filthy open air markets where they trade are no more.
And the poor rural shacks of poor rural farmers are no more. Their
farms are up in smoke.
Even the attempt to rid the country of poor people is succeeding.
Already, some 50 poor people have been eliminated inside a Church, another 50
on the streets of Kisumu, and another 50 or so in Nairobi.
At this rate, Kenya should be a first world country pretty soon.
There will be no more poor people.
This sure is change. Raila did deliver on his promise to bring
about change. The only regret is that he should have revealed the nature of
change to poor people.
Meanwhile, Raila, as part of the wealthy elite, is safe and sound
in the capital, Nairobi.
He has said he will fight until the last drop of the poor people's
blood.
This is what I call genius.
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