Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-14 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> I see a lot of operators are already selling FTTC > as "uncontended" I've only noticed unlimited. > Can FTTC really be claimed as uncontended when People stopped implementing a specific cotnention long ago and at BTs backhaul rates why would they contend you, there's money to be made on letti

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-14 Thread Robin Williams
As a side note to this discussion (and vaguely related to FTTC as a replacement for EFM), I see a lot of operators are already selling FTTC as "uncontended". Can FTTC really be claimed as uncontended when operators have zero control or monitoring of the fibre circuit from the exchange to the

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-14 Thread Charlie Boisseau
We only use FireBricks, and I have no idea on cisco boxes - don't have any :-) I didn't expect anything less! Presumably you could make an LAG on two ports, and have those cabled to ports that are each untagged on a VLAN that then routes through to the FTTC lines at the far end. That should work,

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-14 Thread Adrian Kennard
On 14/05/13 08:20, Charlie Boisseau wrote: > Adrian, > > Is that with the magic help of a Firebrick, or would it be possible with > a Cisco or Juniper device? I've done a bit of googling and it would > seem there's little if any material on how to do it. As far as I can > tell LAGs are only poss

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-14 Thread Adrian Kennard
On 14/05/13 08:20, Charlie Boisseau wrote: > Adrian, > > Is that with the magic help of a Firebrick, or would it be possible with > a Cisco or Juniper device? I've done a bit of googling and it would > seem there's little if any material on how to do it. As far as I can > tell LAGs are only poss

Re: [uknof] are there any ISPs planning to offer FTTC circuit bonding?

2013-05-14 Thread Charlie Boisseau
Adrian, Is that with the magic help of a Firebrick, or would it be possible with a Cisco or Juniper device? I've done a bit of googling and it would seem there's little if any material on how to do it. As far as I can tell LAGs are only possible on a per-port basis (at least on Cisco switches