Re: [uknof] Strange DKIM Failures via UKNOF

2023-12-28 Thread Christian de Larrinaga via uknof
--- Begin Message --- Andy Smith via uknof writes: > mailop might be a better venue to talk more about whether Internet > mailing lists in general are required to support DKIM. > > https://www.mailop.org/ agree with this ... > > Though I think the view will still mostly only go as far as

Re: [uknof] Strange DKIM Failures via UKNOF

2023-12-27 Thread Andy Smith via uknof
--- Begin Message --- Hi Giorgio, On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 09:01:32PM +0100, Giorgio Bonfiglio via uknof wrote: > It’s in the interest of an ML operator to ensure subscribers do > get emails - no? I personally think so, yes, but there is no RFC that says an Internet mailing list must support or pr

Re: [uknof] Strange DKIM Failures via UKNOF

2023-12-27 Thread Giorgio Bonfiglio via uknof
--- Begin Message --- Hey Andy, > How DKIM works is in an RFC, but how to operationally use it isn't, > so much. It's not universally agreed that mailing list operators > SHOULD (or MUST) NOT change the subject lines as the emails go > through. Not every mailing list operator believes that, and th

Re: [uknof] Strange DKIM Failures via UKNOF

2023-12-27 Thread Andy Smith via uknof
--- Begin Message --- Hi Giorgio, On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:51:51AM +0100, Giorgio Bonfiglio via uknof wrote: > this stuff became RFC and not recently… Shouldn’t a well respected > tech list be configured in a way which doesn’t break validation? How DKIM works is in an RFC, but how to operationa

Re: [uknof] Strange DKIM Failures via UKNOF

2023-12-27 Thread Andy Smith via uknof
--- Begin Message --- Hello, On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 09:59:15AM +, James Bensley via uknof wrote: > I'm also getting mangled emails from UKNOF. What do you mean by mangled? If you mean that your mails, as distributed by uknof, come as an email From: the list with your original email as an att

Re: [uknof] Strange DKIM Failures via UKNOF

2023-12-27 Thread Giorgio Bonfiglio via uknof
--- Begin Message --- Mailman has an option to drop the DKIM header which makes the email just go unsigned - and this would surely fix. Although, it doesn’t look particularly elegant to drop a signature - should probably look into a way to re-sign outgoing email after all modifications are done

Re: [uknof] Strange DKIM Failures via UKNOF

2023-12-27 Thread James Bensley via uknof
--- Begin Message --- This issue affects me too, ever since I moved away from Gmail, my new provider (protonmail) seems more strict so I'm also getting mangled emails from UKNOF. I'm on loads of mailman mailing lists and since switching email providers, I only have a problem with UKNOF. If anyon