Re: TCP fallback on timeout

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Vixie via Unbound-users
Havard Eidnes via Unbound-users wrote: >> Unfortunately, DNS servers aren't required to support TCP. > > IMHO, that is an all too commonly held misconception. Publishing name > servers need to support TCP as well. I'm pretty sure section 4.2 of > RFC 1035 mandates it. It doesn't use the

Re: TCP fallback on timeout

2017-04-27 Thread Havard Eidnes via Unbound-users
> Unfortunately, DNS servers aren't required to support TCP. IMHO, that is an all too commonly held misconception. Publishing name servers need to support TCP as well. I'm pretty sure section 4.2 of RFC 1035 mandates it. It doesn't use the formal requirements keywords because it predates the

Re: Trust rules and DNSSEC signatures

2017-04-27 Thread Robert Edmonds via Unbound-users
Florian Weimer via Unbound-users wrote: > Does Unbound use otherwise non-trustworthy data simply because it has > valid DNSSEC signatures? > > I'm asking because of this recent dnsop thread: > > Hi, Florian: It's been

Re: TCP fallback on timeout

2017-04-27 Thread Jacob Hoffman-Andrews via Unbound-users
On 04/27/2017 07:27 AM, Viktor Dukhovni via Unbound-users wrote: > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:14:09PM -0700, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews wrote: > >> I'm trying to understand Unbound's TCP fallback better. Is it expected >> that Unbound will fall back to TCP when UDP queries timeout, or only if >> it

Re: Trust rules and DNSSEC signatures

2017-04-27 Thread Florian Weimer via Unbound-users
* Paul Wouters: >> On Apr 27, 2017, at 08:11, Florian Weimer via Unbound-users >> wrote: >> >> Does Unbound use otherwise non-trustworthy data simply because it has >> valid DNSSEC signatures? >> > > How can data be signed and validated and also "non-trustworthy" ?

Re: TCP fallback on timeout

2017-04-27 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Unbound-users
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:14:09PM -0700, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews wrote: > I'm trying to understand Unbound's TCP fallback better. Is it expected > that Unbound will fall back to TCP when UDP queries timeout, or only if > it receives a truncated ANSWER? Only when truncated as you observed. >

Trust rules and DNSSEC signatures

2017-04-27 Thread Florian Weimer via Unbound-users
Does Unbound use otherwise non-trustworthy data simply because it has valid DNSSEC signatures? I'm asking because of this recent dnsop thread: