Pictograms (was: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views)

2000-06-14 Thread Otto Stolz
Am 2000-06-13 um 11:57:59 (GMT-0800) hat Alain geschrieben: > the flash option -- which most will like to use, show... a flash > pictogram (electric storm flash shape won't change overnight in nature, > I guess) This is another example of the pitfall I tried to warn of: it is not enough that the

RE: [unicode] Re: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views

2000-06-14 Thread Marco . Cimarosti
Alain LaBonté drew: > Now a hat: (%=FE (with a thorn, why limit ourselves with ASCII?) Because something is cursed with your MIME, so your bowler hat becomes Uncle Sam's top hat -- and that's out of lieu on a Canadian head. I wonder, how long will it take before someone starts doing Unicode em

RE: Pictograms (was: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views)

2000-06-14 Thread Marco . Cimarosti
Otto Stolz wrote (about using a flash icon for the flashlight function on a camera): > I found two possible situations in which this would not work: > - a particular culture may use another metaphor, or a term not based > on any metaphor, for the notion you are trying to convey, > - or the metap

add ArialUnicode to the Java V.M (Font.properties)

2000-06-14 Thread Nicolas Toussaint
I'm trying to use the Microsoft ArialUnicode for 1 week, but without result! Does someone help me in order to set the Font.properties to use the arial unicode as default! I'm woking with Windows NT 4.00.1381, and I'm using JDK1.2.2 Thanks proner ___

Re: [unicode] Re: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views

2000-06-14 Thread mary ink
>>Pictograms are problematic because they are often culturally based. How about using the ideographs we already have, ie the Unified Han Characters? Totally culturally-BASED, I suppose, but knowing fewer than 20 of them I was nonetheless able to locate the ladies room, find the exit, and figur

Pictograms and the UCS

2000-06-14 Thread Alain
À 11:57 2000-06-12 -0400, Peter Fraser a écrit: I just see it as reinventing written Chinese. Goodbye Dictionaries. [Alain]  Just three points: 1) I believe that most Chinese "ideographs" are not pictographic    (therefore not ideographic per se) although thay have graphic    characteristics whic

Minor error in TR #16

2000-06-14 Thread Doug Ewell
I found a small error in Technical Report #16, "UTF-EBCDIC." In Section 3.5, "Signature," there is the following passage: The signature character U+FEFF (zero width no-break space) of Unicode transforms into the I8-byte sequence X'F1 BF B7 BF' which maps to X'DD 73 66 73' in UTF-EBCDIC.

FW: ISO 8859-1 question

2000-06-14 Thread Magda Danish (Unicode)
-Original Message- From: Tayeb Brahimi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:06 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: ISO 8859-1 question I want to know (briefly) the difference between ISO 8859-1, ISO 8859-2, ISO 8859-3, ISO 8859-4 All Latin Alphabet. I appre

RE: ISO 8859-1 question

2000-06-14 Thread Michael Kaplan (Trigeminal Inc.)
See http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/iso.asp or more specifically http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/iso/28591.htm http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/iso/28592.htm http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/iso/28594.htm http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/refe

RE: ISO 8859-1 question

2000-06-14 Thread Michael Kaplan (Trigeminal Inc.)
> >See > > > >http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/iso.asp > > > >or more specifically > > > >http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/iso/28591.htm > >http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/iso/28592.htm > >http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/iso/28594.htm >htt

RE: ISO 8859-1 question

2000-06-14 Thread Rogers, Paul
> -Original Message- > From: Tayeb Brahimi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:06 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: ISO 8859-1 question > > > I want to know (briefly) the difference between > > ISO 8859-1, > ISO 8859-2, > ISO 8859-3, > ISO 8859-4 > > A

Re: FW: ISO 8859-1 question

2000-06-14 Thread John Cowan
"Magda Danish (Unicode)" wrote: > ISO 8859-1, # Western European languages > ISO 8859-2, # Eastern European languages > ISO 8859-3, # Maltese and Esperanto (Turkish now uses 8859-9) > ISO 8859-4, # Effectively obsolete You can see detailed differences at http://www.czyborra.com -- Sch

Re: [unicode] Re: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views

2000-06-14 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:57 AM 06/13/2000 -0800, Otto Stolz wrote: > > >Am 2000-06-13 um 17:49 h hat Alain geschrieben: > > [Having pictograms everywhere] is much lighter than having to provide > > indications, say, in 12 languages (most common example: toilets). Watch out when you go to the bathroom in Scotland. T

Re: [unicode] Re: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views

2000-06-14 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 07:29 AM 06/13/2000 -0800, Alain wrote: >With more than 2 languages, precedence becomes problematic. As an example >of language precedence, an actual case: at the Toronto Airport Radisson >Suite Hotels, my prefered hotel in Toronto (so far! but it could >change...), they recently introduced

Re: Pictograms (was: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views)

2000-06-14 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 11:34 AM 06/13/2000 -0800, Alain wrote: >[Alain] In my example of this morning, it was not mainly because French >was in 5th position that I was the most upset, it is because I was in a >hurry -- that was last Tuesday -- and that I had to wait for the vocal >explanations for many minutes wh

Re: Pictograms

2000-06-14 Thread Kenneth Whistler
William Overington queried: > The question arises, however, that in the event that > some people desire at some time in the future to be able to express a > document as containing both text and some particular standardized > illustration, how should they proceed. ... I feel that > the situation

Re: (TC304.2324) RE: Pictograms and the UCS

2000-06-14 Thread Alain
À 11:07 2000-06-14 -0400, Peter Fraser a écrit: Chinese dictionaries are ordered by stroke count. To use one you count the strokes in the character (and hope you are right), then look through many pages of symbols looking for a match. Pictographic don't even have a stroke count.  My Chinese speak

Re: Pictograms (was: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views)

2000-06-14 Thread Alain
À 13:59 2000-06-14 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg a écrit: At 11:34 AM 06/13/2000 -0800, Alain wrote: [Alain]  In my example of this morning, it was not mainly because French was in 5th position that I was the most upset, it is because I was in a hurry -- that was last Tuesday -- and that I had to wai

Re: Linguistic precedence [was: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views]

2000-06-14 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Are we getting off topic? ALB> With more than 2 languages, precedence becomes problematic. On the cover of my French driver's license, it says ``Driving license'' in 10 languages (all the EU languages at the time it was printed). The titles are ordered alphabetically by the name of the language