That also goes for ichi and hyphen.

2000-08-02 Thread 11digitboy
That also goes for ichi (the kanji corresponding to our digit 1), and the kanji hyphen. I don't want those to look alike. You don't want them to either, ne? -- Robert Lozyniak Accusplit pedometer manufactures can go suck eggs My page: http://walk.to/11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email (917) 421-3909 x11

Fonts for I, L, 1

2000-08-02 Thread 11digitboy
I don't need the word "ill" to look like Roman numeral three. OKAY, ANYBODY KNOW OF SOME GOOD, BIG FONTS WHERE NO TWO CHARACTERS LOOK ALIKE? This would especially be good for capital pee and capital rho. These fonts would ideally have this property in a "normal", small size. -- Robert Lozyniak A

What is ` (U+0060) for?

2000-08-02 Thread 11digitboy
What's ` for? To space what? I pretty much just use it for writing big numbers, like 42`9496`7296. -- Robert Lozyniak Accusplit pedometer manufactures can go suck eggs My page: http://walk.to/11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email (917) 421-3909 x1133 - voicemail/fax ___

RE: Question

2000-08-02 Thread Vinit Bhatt
Hi Addison, Thanks for really descriptive and explanatory email. It helped me a lot in grasping basics of Unicode and Internationalization. I also got good link from the site you gave me. That is :- http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/guide/intl/intlTOC.doc.html I got supported encoding from :- h

Re: press release

2000-08-02 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
MB> Output goes to PDF, PostScript, line printers, PCL as well as MB> HTML/XML. It would sure be nice if all those technologies handled MB> context sensitive glyph placement...but this is only the year MB> 2000. PostScript and to a certain extent PDF do not manipulate characters; all they ever se

RE: What is ` (U+0060) for?

2000-08-02 Thread Ayers, Mike
I think it was originally used to do runoff formatting in ASCII, e.g.: ``Hi There'', said Bob. It's not used much for that anymore, especially since many current fonts, including the one I'm using to compose this note, render U+0027 as a vertical tick instead of the forward lean

RE: That also goes for ichi and hyphen.

2000-08-02 Thread Ayers, Mike
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > That also goes for ichi (the kanji corresponding > to our digit 1), and the kanji hyphen. I don't want > those to look alike. You don't want them to either, > ne? > I suspect most fonts would render ichi with brush strokes at th

FW: Japan phone standard

2000-08-02 Thread Magda Danish (Unicode)
-Original Message- From: Pete Molloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Japan phone standard Hello, I understand that Japanese phone have their own standard - not Unicode. Can you point me to a conversion between Unicode and

RE: What is ` (U+0060) for?

2000-08-02 Thread addison
Actually, I erred. It's Switzerland that prefers this formula (see the ITS and DES locales on Windows or in Java--although Java uses three digits for grouping and it should be four). Addison === Addison P. PhillipsPrinci

RE: What is ` (U+0060) for?

2000-08-02 Thread addison
> > I'm curious about the number spacing, though - did you invent that > yourself, or does it have a context? I've never seen nuumbers written like > that before. > Italian uses this format. (Look at the ITA locale on Windows, for example). It's a good example of why not to make assumpti

Re: Question

2000-08-02 Thread Mark Davis
Indic support is in IBM's JDK, I believe in 1.3. Mark Vinit Bhatt wrote: > Hi Addison, > > Thanks for really descriptive and explanatory email. > It helped me a lot in grasping basics of Unicode and Internationalization. > I also got good link from the site you gave me. That is :- > http://java

RE: Question

2000-08-02 Thread addison
I'm glad I could help. My understanding is that there will be support in some future JDK... don't know when though. You can, of course, create your own. Good luck to you. Addison On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Vinit Bhatt wrote: > Hi Addison, > > Thanks for really descriptive and explanatory email. > I

FW: Unicode and CJK unification

2000-08-02 Thread Magda Danish (Unicode)
  -Original Message-From: 952470 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:10 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Unicode and CJK unificationDear Sir or Madam, currently I am compiling a modern Chinese language dictionary using WIndows 2000 and Office 2000 (English ed

RE: What is ` (U+0060) for?

2000-08-02 Thread Marco . Cimarosti
Addison wrote: > Actually, I erred. It's Switzerland that prefers this formula (see the > ITS and DES locales on Windows or in Java--although Java uses > three digits > for grouping and it should be four). The Swiss locale on Windows systems actually uses ' (U+0027) as a thousands separator, not

RE: What is ` (U+0060) for?

2000-08-02 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Addison noted: > > Actually, I erred. It's Switzerland that prefers this formula (see the > ITS and DES locales on Windows or in Java--although Java uses three digits > for grouping and it should be four). > And the correct character to use with this Swiss numerical format is U+0027, not U+006

Re: Acronyms

2000-08-02 Thread Alain
À 08:32 2000-07-10 -0800, Antoine Leca a écrit: >I deleted the message I am trying to answer, so the subject is >wrong and it will appear misplaced if your MUA presents the messages >threaded... > >Anyway, about Michael's acronyms, I believe part of the answer can >be found in the title of ISO/IEC

Re: FW: Unicode and CJK unification

2000-08-02 Thread John H. Jenkins
At 8:47 AM -0800 8/2/00, Magda Danish (Unicode) wrote: > >-Original Message- >From: 952470 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:10 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Unicode and CJK unification > >1) In my work I have to use Chinese (traditional and simplified)

Re: Acronyms (off-topic)

2000-08-02 Thread Alain LaBonté 
À 07:12 2000-07-11 -0800, Doug Ewell a écrit: >Patrick Andries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well, ISO apparently is not an acronym but a reference to the Greek > > element « isos » (equal) chosen for its language-neutrality. That's at > > least the official story. Note that many technical maga

RE: What is ` (U+0060) for?

2000-08-02 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Ayers, Mike wrote: > I'm curious about the number spacing, though - did you invent that > yourself, or does it have a context? I've never seen nuumbers written like > that before. BTW, we also use it in Persian for thousands separator where a real thousands separator

Re: Acronyms (off-topic)

2000-08-02 Thread Geoffrey Waigh
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Alain LaBonté  wrote: > À 07:12 2000-07-11 -0800, Doug Ewell a écrit: > >Many English speakers also think ISO is an abbreviation or initialism > >(not "acronym"; that term is correct only when the resulting "word" > >is actually pronounced, like "AIDS" or "SIDA") of the Englis

RE: What is ` (U+0060) for?

2000-08-02 Thread addison
You're all correct: it *is* U+0027 instead of U+0060. I should have pointed it out... I meant that the format (pattern) was Swiss. Again, the point is that there are more formats than just the exchange of U+002E (dot) and U+002C (comma). A lot of programmers are tempted to write their own number

Arial Unicode MS

2000-08-02 Thread Dara Becker
Does anybody else have problems with Arial Unicode MS font? I've had to reinstall it because the font file had become corrupt. At times it will seem to disappear from the fonts available. For example, the NT character map will show blanks instead of glyphs when I chose Arial Unicode MS, and now I'

RE: Arial Unicode MS

2000-08-02 Thread Chris Pratley
You need to install NT4 SP5 or later to fix this. Sent with Office2000 SR1 wordmail -Original Message- From: Dara Becker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 2:45 PM To: Unicode List Subject: Arial Unicode MS Does anybody else have problems with Arial Unicode MS f

Re: Arial Unicode MS

2000-08-02 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
What version of Windows are you using? What service pack? There is a bug in the font cache of NT4 that will cause problems if you have too many fonts installed (especialy big fonts like this one). It will give the very symptoms you discuss here. Windows 2000 does not have this bug. michka Mich

RE: Unicode and CJK unification

2000-08-02 Thread Chris Pratley
Arial Unicode MS uses CJK glyphs from various cultural styles, so if you need a “pure” font, you would be better off using a font that specifically targets a particular locale e.g. MingliU for Traditional Chinese, and Simsun for Simplified Chinese. Both of these come with Office2000.   R

RE: Arial Unicode MS

2000-08-02 Thread Dara Becker
Well it's good to finally understand that problem. I'm using NT4.0 SP4. I understand I'll be using Windows 2000 sometime in the near future, so I'll wait it out. Dara -Original Message- From: Michael (michka) Kaplan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 5:04 PM To:

Re: Arial Unicode MS

2000-08-02 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
You can also upgrade to SP5 to increase the size of the font cache, as Chris Pratley mentions. but if you collect a lot of fonts you will still eventually hit a ceiling (after installing the langpacks for all languages, the Office 2000 proofing tools, GlobalWriter 98, and working with dozens o

RE: That also goes for ichi and hyphen.

2000-08-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
At 7:54 AM -0800 8/2/2000, Ayers, Mike wrote: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> >> That also goes for ichi (the kanji corresponding > > to our digit 1), and the kanji hyphen. Hen na namae da na. yunicodo de nan to iu mono ka?

Re: Unicode and CJK unification

2000-08-02 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
You can also go with the IE langpack fonts MingLiU for CHT, and MS Hei/MS Song for CHS.I have not heard exceptional things about these fonts, but I have definitely not heard as many complaints about style variations as with Arial Unicode MS. I'd would also be curious what IME problems you we