Re: Pentagrams: (was: RE: UTF8 vs. Unicode (UTF16) in code)

2001-03-14 Thread Michael Everson
At 19:50 -0800 2001-03-13, Pierpaolo BERNARDI wrote: Now that you mention them, someone will make a fuss over their absence. 8-) They have already been noticed. -- Michael Everson ** Everson Gunn Teoranta ** http://www.egt.ie 15 Port Chaeimhghein ochtarach; Baile tha Cliath 2; ire/Ireland

RE: Pentagrams: (was: RE: UTF8 vs. Unicode (UTF16) in code)

2001-03-14 Thread Marco Cimarosti
First of all, sorry for having started this demoniac thread. It was against my will -- I was probably possessed. :-) As someone correctly inferred, what I meant was the Italian "pentagramma": the five horizontal lines used in musical notation or, by extension, "musical notation". BTW,

RE: Pentagrams: (was: RE: UTF8 vs. Unicode (UTF16) in code)

2001-03-14 Thread Marco Cimarosti
I wrote: F666;ANTICHRISTIAN ALTERNATIVE LATIN CAPITAL LETTER T;Lu;0;L;font 0054N0074; Ooops! it lowercase t, not uppercase. As I must correct myself, I take the occasion to make a better decomposition: F666;ANTICHRISTIAN ALTERNATIVE LATIN SMALL LETTER T;Ll;0;L;compat

RE: Font for Kurdish (Arabic Script)

2001-03-14 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Title: Lateef Sagar Shaikh wrote: I am making a font for Kurdish in Arabic script, and don't know how to handle some Kurdish characters. I am sending an image for detail.Based on the glyphs you show, your mappings seem correct to me.Thevowels that you did not specify look like

Talking about cultures, see this surprising thesis

2001-03-14 Thread Alain LaBonté 
See http://www.harper.cc.il.us/mhealy/g101ilec/namer/nac/nacnine/na9intro/nacnin fr.htm It dates back to 1981, the thesis of an American named Joel Garreau. It is the theory of the 9 nations that form North America. Alain LaBont Qubec

Re: Pentagrams: (was: RE: UTF8 vs. Unicode (UTF16) in code)

2001-03-14 Thread Bertrand Laidain
A lot of other religions managed to make it into Miscellaneous Symbols (although if Solomon's Seal/Mogen David is there, I'm not seeing it). No it is there : From ITC Zapf dingbats series 100 Stars asteriks and snowflakes 2721 STAR OF DAVID Bertrand

Re: Pentagrams: (was: RE: UTF8 vs. Unicode (UTF16) in code)

2001-03-14 Thread Daniel Biddle
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Curtis Clark wrote: At 07:50 PM 3/13/01, Pierpaolo BERNARDI wrote: And no, the Unicode Standard hasn't encoded any pentagrams yet -- or hexagrams or baphomets, for that matter. Now that you mention them, someone will make a fuss over their absence. 8-) A lot of

RE: Pentagrams: (was: RE: UTF8 vs. Unicode (UTF16) in code)

2001-03-14 Thread Carl W. Brown
Doug, U+235F (APL is a rather demonic language, isn't it?) In more ways than one. His pitch fork U+2366 is there too. You wonder why IBM had so much trouble selling its first PCs. The 5101 cost more than $30K, came with one tape drive, plus 8K of memory and did not support floppies. The

Re: UTF8 vs. Unicode (UTF16) in code

2001-03-14 Thread John Jenkins
On Tuesday, March 13, 2001, at 05:39 PM, Christopher John Fynn wrote: Some of the characters in Extension B are required for JIS X 0213 support, which is going to be a sine qua non in Japan within a few years. There was a push a little while ago to put these characters on the BMP for

APL

2001-03-14 Thread Dan Kolis
"Carl W. Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Say you wanted to do a table lookup. APL has no string operations so you are comparing a one dimensional character array against a two dimensional character array. You use an outer product multiply function substituting the multiply for a compare. This

Off topic: language death in the US

2001-03-14 Thread Michael Everson
Sigh. http://www.chronicle.com/free/v47/i26/26a01401.htm -- Michael Everson ** Everson Gunn Teoranta ** http://www.egt.ie 15 Port Chaeimhghein ochtarach; Baile tha Cliath 2; ire/Ireland Mob +353 86 807 9169 ** Fax +353 1 478 2597 ** Vox +353 1 478 2597 27 Pirc an Fhithlinn; Baile an

Re: Off topic: language death in the US

2001-03-14 Thread James Partridge
There has been a lot of debate about this on SeeLangs - the Slavonic and East European Languages list. In the spirit of fair debate I'm forwarding the long response to this Chronicle article (sorry about the length - I hope no one objects), sent by the man at the centre of the furore, David

TRON

2001-03-14 Thread Suzanne M. Topping
Can anyone comment on how widely used the TRON Character Code is today? After doing some surfing on the topic, it appears to be in at least some use (primarily in Japan?) I hadn't thought there were any viable alternatives to Unicode out there, and was surprised to see TRON looking as alive as

Re: TRON

2001-03-14 Thread hiura
From: "Suzanne M. Topping" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone comment on how widely used the TRON Character Code is today? One of the variation of TRON, ITRON, is quite popular in embedded systems arena, but probably what you are interested in is BTRON, a desktop variatoin of TRON, which is promoted

[OT] Re: APL

2001-03-14 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Dan Kolis wrote: Thats what makes to s great and sooo weird, And all these time I thought that Perl is greatest and the most weird. With all the details you opened our eyes into, Perl is only a childish toy in the obscurity world. ;) --roozbeh

Again sorry to talk about APL

2001-03-14 Thread Dan Kolis
In the dewey decimal system numbers start at 1 for highest levels of abstraction and go down to 999 for details. So theology is up in the 1,2,3 and steam engine operation around 600. Computer science is in the single digits, and programming is around 621 or so. APL and LISP are the deviants in

Re: TRON

2001-03-14 Thread Thomas Chan
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Suzanne M. Topping" [EMAIL PROTECTED] After doing some surfing on the topic, it appears to be in at least some use (primarily in Japan?) I hadn't thought there were any viable alternatives to Unicode out there, and was surprised to see

Re: UTF8 vs. Unicode (UTF16) in code

2001-03-14 Thread John Jenkins
On Wednesday, March 14, 2001, at 09:01 AM, John Jenkins wrote: In any event, it was a politically impossible decision to make. It was extremely difficult to get agreement to add Vertical Extension A to the BMP; in the end, that agreement was secured only by promising that no future