On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have also noticed the variations in pronunciation and romanized spelling,
> and being a bit more interested in such things than the typical American, it
> makes me curious: How is "al-Qaeda" spelled in Arabic?
Just guessing:
Alef Lam Qaf A
At 21:56 -0700 2001-10-02, Michael \(michka\) Kaplan wrote:
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> I still live in hopes that someone, John or someone else, will one
>> day send me a Deseret keyboard layout that is at least SLIGHTLY
>> standard (meaning more than one person has ever used it).
> >
>
Roozbeh Pournader wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I have also noticed the variations in pronunciation and
> romanized spelling,
> > and being a bit more interested in such things than the
> typical American, it
> > makes me curious: How is "al-Qaeda" spelled in Arabi
>On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I have also noticed the variations in pronunciation and romanized
spelling,
>> and being a bit more interested in such things than the typical American,
it
>> makes me curious: How is "al-Qaeda" spelled in Arabic?
>Just guessing:
>Alef Lam
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Marco Cimarosti wrote:
> Alef Fatha Lam Sukun Qaf Fatha Alef Ain Kasra Dal Fatha Teh-Marbuta
>(Damma)
It strikes me as weird that none of the major news media have gone to the
pain of finding out how the buzzwords of the day (al-Qaida and Osama bin
Laden) are actually w
I (Marco Cimarosti) wrote:
> I guess that, vowelized, it should be:
>
> أُسامة بِن لادِن
>
> Alef-Hamza-Above Damma Seen Alef Meem Teh-Marbuta Space
> Beh Kasra Noon Space Lam Alef Dal Kasra Noon
> 0628 064F 0650 0646 0020 0644 0627 062F 0650 0646
Ooops, wrong codes. Try aga
I mentioned that the prefix "Bin" of Arabic surnames may also be
transliterated "Ben". There is a "politically incorrect" fun story
circulating in Italy about this; I hope that Italianist Unicoders will enjoy
it.
Ciao.
_ Marco
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Sampo Syreeni wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Marco Cimarosti wrote:
>
> > Alef Fatha Lam Sukun Qaf Fatha Alef Ain Kasra Dal Fatha
> Teh-Marbuta
> >(Damma)
>
> It strikes me as weird that none of the major news media have
> gone to the pain of finding out how the buzzwords of the day
> (al-Qa
> Hello friends at Unicode,
Hello David.
> I am wondering if you could tell me why I can send an
> E-mail in Chinese characters to a friend in China who
> can recieve it clearly, but when they write me in
> Chinese I receive a scrambled message that doesn't
> resemble Chinese writing. I am curre
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Well, careful now. The language is English. You mean "someone who uses
the
> script."
Yes, that is what I meant... I was referring to users of the script. Though
I suppose if they were going to try to tackle the original inner and outer
plates it would not be English
John Jenkins wrote:
>The current generation of font tools does not generally allow the
>creation of a glyph in a font without assigning it a code-point of
>some sort.
Are you sure about this? I thought this could be done in Fontographer, for example. There certainly are tools that will allow
At 9:01 AM +0100 10/3/01, Michael Everson wrote:
>
>The language is English. I imagine they would expect some sort of
>QWERTY-based input.
The way I actually do it myself in real life is to type Latin and
have the computer convert it to Deseret. I can do clean-up
afterwards. It's much easier
> From: Sampo Syreeni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 02:50 AM
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Marco Cimarosti wrote:
>
> > Alef Fatha Lam Sukun Qaf Fatha Alef Ain Kasra Dal Fatha
> Teh-Marbuta
> >(Damma)
>
> It strikes me as weird that none of the major news media h
With regard to the origin of the dollar sign, according to Florian
Cajori, author of a standard work (I think the title is either "A
History of Mathematical Signs" or "A History of Mathematical
Notation"), it originated from the abbreviation , for "pesos."
The two vertical lines have their or
Getting screen shots of my Deseret keyboard layout is a less than
trivial task, so I'll try to describe it word-wise.
Two main points: I started with QWERTY and kept key mappings the
same as much as possible. Of course, since Deseret has 38 letters I
had to do some doubling up. The main way
At 12:28 -0500 2001-10-02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>It would be possible to add a new character DASH WITH DIAERESIS as
>long as it does not have any decomposition.
Opening the door to lots of nice dictionary things. SWUNG DASH is
also sorely missing, but it will be coming up in some FUPA prop
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: den 3 oktober 2001 06:30
Subject: Code points for "al-Qaeda"
> Like everyone else, I have suddenly become familiar in the past three
weeks
> with the name "al-Qaeda," Arabic for "the base" and the name of Osama
> From: John Cowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 09:14 AM
>
> Ayers, Mike wrote:
>
> > I also recall when the U.S. government decided to switch from
> > Wade-Giles to Pinyin romanization of Chinese and muscled
> the media into
> > playing along. All that
At 12:12 AM -0400 10/3/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In a message dated 2001-10-02 9:39:31 Pacific Daylight Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> BTW, I'm not aware that anybody is revising their fonts to handle ZWJ this
>> way.
>
>Well, according to Unicode 3.1 (UAX #27) they should, right?
At 11:34 AM -0500 10/3/01, Ayers, Mike wrote:
> Pinyin still has similar problems (Xi'an/Xian), but, yes, they're
>less frequent. Nevertheless, W-G had the advantage of presenting words that
>were at least pronounceable (albeit pronounced incorrectly) by the average
>English speaker, unlike
> Transliteration is not the worse thing I notice in media these days.
I
> would not care that they use the weirdest spellings, if they just
stopped
> spreading misinformation that, directly or indirectly, pushes the idea
that
> Arabs and Muslims are the same thing and they are all terrorists.
Ye
Doug,
I suspect that since it was a phonetic spelling system and the writings
varied with the writer's pronunciation that individualized keyboard layouts
could be a personal preference as well.
Carl
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of
On 10/03/2001 10:48:29 AM John H. Jenkins wrote:
>Getting screen shots of my Deseret keyboard layout is a less than
>trivial task, so I'll try to describe it word-wise...
Except for the Caps Lock behaviour, this layout would be fairly straightforward to setup for Windows using Keyman. A few st
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Ayers, Mike wrote:
>I'm willing to bet that most of them have at least one person on staff
>who can do exactly that - however, far too little of the audience would
>be interested.
Well, naturally. Putting a lot of effort into "getting it right" would not
be sensible. However,
OK. Sorry Sarasvati, sorry List, sorry media, sorry `Usama.
My loving nickname for the latter was mainly a mocking of the warring
language that we hear too often these days; I should probably have added
quotes or smileys to make it clearer.
_ Marco
> -Original Message-
> From: Sarasvat
Michael:
>> >1. LATIN CAPITAL LETTER EGYPTOLOGICAL YOD
>>>LATIN SMALL LETTER EGYPTOLOGICAL YOD
>>>2. LATIN CAPITAL LETTER EGYPTOLOGICAL AYIN
>>>LATIN SMALL LETTER EGYPTOLOGICAL AYIN
>>>
>>>I strongly suspect that current diacritics (for 1) and modifier letters (for
>>>2) are similar enough in
Peter,
I was
the chairman of the keyboard standards committee for ACCESS.bus which was the
predecessor the USB. However Intel got impatient and developed the USB
standard. Unfortunately they only reserved 8 bits for the keyboard
language identifier. Had they done a better job you could
> From: Sampo Syreeni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:32 AM
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Ayers, Mike wrote:
>
> >I'm willing to bet that most of them have at least one
> person on staff
> >who can do exactly that - however, far too little of the
> audience would
>
Hi Guys,
Sorry for this stupid question!..
I am not able to edit unicode files on my Win2000 box using emeditor ( a
unicode editor )... where my friend is able.. to.. ( sorry for being silly )
I did do some installations and uninstallations on few other editors as
well.. like ( XML spy, uniedi
Carl, Peter,
When I was testing i18n Win98 I hooked up different language USB keyboards plus the default keyboard using the normal connector and after adding the locales in the Keyboard Settings I was able to type with all keyboards according to the locale settings in their respective different
Dave,
My
point was that it was stupid to make the field so small. Since the ID is
burned into the KB prom to indicate the layout other circumventions are a
kludge.
Carl
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:5
David Possin wrote:
>
> So I see no big issue adding a Deseret and a Klingon keyboard in a daisy
> chain with a German and a US keyboard. It would just be nice if users
> could create sig's to define the layout. Now all I need is the Klingon
> font, thanks to this thread I found the Deseret
Carl:
>I was the chairman of the keyboard standards committee for ACCESS.bus which
>was the predecessor the USB
>Had they done a better job you could really use the
>field in the device driver and be able to use two keyboards with different
>keyboard language layout codes.
I wasn
On 03-Oct-01 Sampo Syreeni wrote:
> Well, naturally. Putting a lot of effort into "getting it right" would not
> be sensible. However, I still think slipping the original Arabic form into
> background graphics or the like would not take too much work, and would
> please the pedantic among us. Not
Brian Beck:
What do you think ?
"Addison Phillips [wM]" wrote:
> Java doesn't define any characters beyond Unicode 2.1.8 at the moment. It's
> stuck in a time-warp. JDK 1.4 will update to Unicode 3.0... neither of these
> versions have defined characters in the supplemental planes.
>
> In Java,
No fair! You forgot to quote my disclaimer in the next email for my big
boo-boo regarding what an int is in Java. An int is fine, darnit! It's char
that was originally (at least externally) limited to 16-bits. Of course,
many APIs use ints, which don't present a problem. But java.lang.Character
an
In addition ot the notes below.
It also depends on the configuration of tehe mail clients being used.
Outlook Express, if sending the email as HTML rather than palin text may
apply a Base64 transformation to the data. Netscape uses Quoted-Printable
transformation, and can be configured to send m
On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Miikka-Markus Alhonen wrote:
>What about bi-/multilingual place names like "Dublin" vs. "Baile Átha
>Cliath", "Turku" vs. "Åbo" or "ירושלים" vs.
>"القدس" (= Jerusalem)?
I wouldn't know. It's a good thing neither Osama nor his network are
likely to have acquired stable Gae
Peter,
>I wasn't thinking of someone using multiple hardware keyboards. Would
anyone want
>to switch from one language to another by shuffling physical keyboards on
their
>desktop? I don't know.
If you can not touch type in the language it is useful to have a keyboard
with the appropriate key cap
On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Andrew Cunningham wrote:
> Marco recommended looking at the Content_type declaration in the emails
> MIME header. Also have a look to see if there is a
> Content-Transfer-Encoding heading.
The best way to get help (if Marco's and Andrew's advice cannot
be followed) is just
Title: help
Title: help
In a message dated 2001-10-03 10:13:26 Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Stefan Persson wrote:
>
>> Do you write "al-Qaeda" and "Osama bin Laden" in English? In Swedish
>> newspapers it's written "al-Qaida" and "Usama bin Ladin."
>
> Usually. The U.S. media seem to prefer "Tal
Title: Unicode characters in applet.
Hi all,
I have been trying to figure out ways and means to show Unicode characters (certain Greek/mathematical symbols) in my java applet running on jre 1.3.x, but all in vain. I am not able to hit as to how should I start off.
Someone told me to use i1
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