RE: CP1256 and Persian YEH?

2001-10-12 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Carl W. Brown wrote: > If I recall, it was distributed as a patch to Arabic Win98 so if you were > inclined to buy a copy of Windows in a country with no intellectual property > laws you co then apply the patch which made minor modifications to add the > LCID and make changes

RE: CP1256 and Persian YEH?

2001-10-12 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Carl W. Brown wrote: > I was told that there was a special (semi official) version of Win98 that > added 4 missing letters in CP1256 by replacing Latin letters to create > CP1256mod. It used LCID 0826. Semi official? You mean in Microsoft's Persian Windows 3.1? roozbeh

Re: [OT] ANN: Site about scripts

2001-10-12 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Lars, > Actually, these definitions are both Daniels'. The one you attribute > to me appears on page xxxix (first page of "Abbreviations, > Conventions, and Definitions") of Bright and Daniels. Hmm. I missed that. I guess Daniels and Bright decided not to take a definitional approach to their di

Re: [OT] ANN: Site about scripts

2001-10-12 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Lars, > * Kenneth Whistler (in an earlier posting) > | > | 2. Script B is a de novo design influenced strongly by Script A. > | > | 3. Script B borrowed formal and/or functional characteristics of > | Script A. > > Unless I am missing something both 2. and 3. involves a cloning of > concepts,

Re: [OT] ANN: Site about scripts

2001-10-12 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* Kenneth Whistler | | My greater issue with your type classification has to do with my | disagreement about how you have defined some of the types. You've certainly exposed my ignorance here. Before this thread started I was dissatisfied with my typology on two counts: a) I did not understan

Re: [OT] ANN: Site about scripts

2001-10-12 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* Kenneth Whistler (in an earlier posting) | | 2. Script B is a de novo design influenced strongly by Script A. | | 3. Script B borrowed formal and/or functional characteristics of | Script A. * Kenneth Whistler | | Yes. Xi Xia is a good example of a de novo design influenced strongly | by Han

Re: CP1256 and Persian YEH?

2001-10-12 Thread David_Possin
I recall something of the sort when we released Win98 for a specific non-US locale, although I can't remember the details. MS released the tier 2 and later locale versions after the initial tier 1 release of US, DE, JA, TC, SC, and KO. Many contained last minute bug fixes or locale specific patc

RE: CP1256 and Persian YEH?

2001-10-12 Thread Carl W. Brown
MickKa, If I recall, it was distributed as a patch to Arabic Win98 so if you were inclined to buy a copy of Windows in a country with no intellectual property laws you co then apply the patch which made minor modifications to add the LCID and make changes to the Unicode to code page conversion an

Re: CP1256 and Persian YEH?

2001-10-12 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Probably mistaken -- or a "pirate" version (pirate is in quotes there since legally it is not pirating to copy software, modify it, and sell it as your own in certain countries). MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: "Carl

RE: CP1256 and Persian YEH?

2001-10-12 Thread Carl W. Brown
Roozbeh, I was told that there was a special (semi official) version of Win98 that added 4 missing letters in CP1256 by replacing Latin letters to create CP1256mod. It used LCID 0826. Carl > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Roozbeh P

Re: CP1256 and Persian YEH?

2001-10-12 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Roozbeh Pournader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CP1256 has never supported FARSI YEH. > No it's not. Persian locale is only avaiable on Windows 2000 and XP, which > are Unicode based. Unfortunately, it is a bit more complicated then that. GetLocaleInfo/LOCALE_IDEFAULTANSICODEPAGE for Farsi doe

Re: Missing Arabic and Syriac characters in Unicode

2001-10-12 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Miikka-Markus Alhonen wrote: > > alternate double marks (Fathatan, Kasratan, Dammatan) > > and some other marks which are used in official Korans of the Islamic > > countries scribed by Osman Taha; and finally the smaller variants of > > Fatha, Kasra, and Damma introduced by

Re: ZWJ+ZWNJ+ZWJ (Was: ZWJ and Turkish)

2001-10-12 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2001-10-11 10:50:09 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Why does Roozbeh think this is 'the worst thing in Unicode'? Probably because it seems so ugly and hackish: 3 formatting characters required to provide shaping information for 2 graphic characters. "Turn

RE: ZWJ+ZWNJ+ZWJ (Was: ZWJ and Turkish)

2001-10-12 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, John Hudson wrote: > Why does Roozbeh think this is 'the worst thing in Unicode'? Peter answered that. Three characters just for asking not to ligate? It's neither beautiful nor clean. Standards should not recommend hacks of themselves... (Please note that I am against enco

Re: CP1256 and Persian YEH?

2001-10-12 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
Bob's completely right. CP1256 is not adequate for Persian (Microsoft confirms this). Systems that use it for Persian usually use the hack that Bob described. roozbeh On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It isn't. That is, Persian YEH isn't available in CP1256. > > I've seen some Far

Re: CP1256 and Persian YEH?

2001-10-12 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Mark Leisher wrote: > Can someone tell me how the Persian YEH (U+06CC) is dealt with in a CP1256 > context? Has the official mapping changed from the following page? > > http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/sbcs/1256.htm CP1256 has never supported FARSI YEH. > Or

Re: CP1256 and Persian YEH?

2001-10-12 Thread Bob_Hallissy
It isn't. That is, Persian YEH isn't available in CP1256. I've seen some Farsi fonts and a common hack is to swap the isolate & final forms of Arabic Yeh (d237, U+064A) with those of Alef Maksura (d236, U+0649), thus turning d237 into a Farsi yeh, and permitting d236 to be used should they need

Re: sample text ok?

2001-10-12 Thread John Hudson
At 18:31 10/11/2001, Vladimir Ivanov wrote: >Third form is a combination of the fourth form (from right to left) and >Kashida U+0640. Er, no. The third form is the initial form in this particular typeface, which happens to have rather a long connecting stroke. Trust me, I know this typeface in