Re: Unicode Devanagari Font in Mozilla

2002-07-18 Thread James Kass
John Hudson wrote, > > >Uniscribe is a windows application and Microsoft tests it. Both > >Microsoft and Apple provide tools to font developers which validate > >fonts. TTF/OTF fonts have a rigid structure, if a font passes either > >Microsoft's or Apple's font validators yet a system crashes

Re: User interface for keyboard input

2002-07-18 Thread Doug Ewell
Martin Kochanski wrote: > One might phrase the question like this: "If I sat you down in front > of a program on a Windows machine, and asked you to type an alpha, > what would you try first?". That's easy. I'd hold down Alt and type 2 2 4 on the keypad. (hee hee hee) What's that? You want

Re: User interface for keyboard input

2002-07-18 Thread Doug Ewell
Otto Stolz wrote: >> - although we can take it for granted that you have not >> got a keyboard with Greek letters enabled, > > Why not? It's so easy, in contemporary Windows versions. > Why shouldn't I install a couple of keyboard layouts for the scripts > I am going to type, on my Windows syste

Re: Basic question: types of diacritics marks

2002-07-18 Thread Adam Twardoch
Michael, John, Kenneth, thank you very much for the prompt answers. This is exactly how I thought it is (except for 02CA, where I wasn't sure). Adam

Re: ZWJ and Latin Ligatures

2002-07-18 Thread Eric Muller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >This was one of the basic >design criteria in order to ensure that support for a script could be added >by building a font using tools assessible to people with less that than >C-programming skills and without requiring any re-write of software. > Actually, the goal of "

Re: Basic question: types of diacritics marks

2002-07-18 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Adam asked: > I have a very basic question. What would be the implementation differences > of diacritics marks in a font? For example, we'd consider: > > U+00B4 acute accent > U+02CA modifier letter acute accent > U+0301 combining acute accent > > What are the common recommendations regarding t

RE: [OpenType] Proposal: Ligatures w/ ZWJ in OpenType

2002-07-18 Thread asmusf
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:23:57 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's forget for a moment whether we're interested in ZWJ or ZWNJ. What do you recommend to be the default behaviour with German text in the context of software that has no particular knowledge of German typography and a user that does

Re: Basic question: types of diacritics marks

2002-07-18 Thread John Hudson
At 12:34 AM 19-07-02, Michael Everson wrote: >At 00:56 +0200 2002-07-19, Adam Twardoch wrote: >>I have a very basic question. What would be the implementation differences >>of diacritics marks in a font? For example, we'd consider: >> >>U+00B4 acute accent > >This is a spacing acute accent. > >>U

Re: Basic question: types of diacritics marks

2002-07-18 Thread Michael Everson
At 00:56 +0200 2002-07-19, Adam Twardoch wrote: >I have a very basic question. What would be the implementation differences >of diacritics marks in a font? For example, we'd consider: > >U+00B4 acute accent This is a spacing acute accent. >U+02CA modifier letter acute accent This is also spacin

RE: [OpenType] Proposal: Ligatures w/ ZWJ in OpenType

2002-07-18 Thread Peter_Constable
On 07/18/2002 12:33:21 AM Asmus Freytag wrote: >> The German >>support in the font could still include the rlig lookups John has >>suggested; and an intelligent app might even activate ligatures >>automatically (like the SHY analogy Asmus mentioned) either by setting an >>appropriate feature ov

Re: ZWJ and Latin Ligatures

2002-07-18 Thread Peter_Constable
On 07/17/2002 11:48:28 AM John Hudson wrote: >>In Graphite, character sequences get mapped into glyph sequences one-to-one >>via the cmap... >Presumably, though, making ligature lookups dependent on ZWJ in Graphite -- >as in OpenType -- relies on the ZWJ character actually being painted. Yes,

Basic question: types of diacritics marks

2002-07-18 Thread Adam Twardoch
I have a very basic question. What would be the implementation differences of diacritics marks in a font? For example, we'd consider: U+00B4 acute accent U+02CA modifier letter acute accent U+0301 combining acute accent What are the common recommendations regarding the glyphs in a font (TrueType

Re: Chromatic Ethiopic

2002-07-18 Thread Peter_Constable
On 07/17/2002 06:35:58 PM John Hudson wrote: >I think Marco is still on holiday but, just before he left, he and I >devised a method to enable bi-chromatic Ethiopic punctuation by utilising a >function similar to the MS Word 'Different colour for diacritics' function... Intriguing idea! What ma

RE: Saying characters out loud (derives from hash, pound,octothorpe?)

2002-07-18 Thread Peter_Constable
On 07/11/2002 11:29:04 AM "Suzanne M. Topping" wrote: >There was a comedian in the 1970's (I remember him from the children's >public television show "Electric Company") who pronounced punctuation >"phonetically" while reading various passages. So it wasn't words for >the symbols, it was sounds.

RE: User interface for keyboard input

2002-07-18 Thread Alain LaBonté 
A 09:26 2002-07-18 -0700, Addison Phillips [wM] a écrit : >Hi Martin, > >I install the Chinese Unicode keyboard myself... > >When I confronted this specific problem recently in our products, the main >solution I adopted was to allow \u notation as input (of course, our >products are for develo

Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-18 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Marion Gunn wrote: > The immediate attraction ang great advantage of Unicode’s vision was its > simplicity/focus: after an unsteady and argumentative start, its > founders committed Unicode to the IMPLEMENTATION of10646, and became > very specific (loud) about not calling it a STANDARD (note to n

Re: User interface for keyboard input

2002-07-18 Thread Otto Stolz
Martin Kochanski wrote: > "If I sat you down in front of a program on a Windows machine, and asked you > to type an alpha, what would you try first?". - Klick on the white DE on blue background (indicating my German keyboard layout), in the task bar, - select Greek keyboard layout, - Type

RE: User interface for keyboard input

2002-07-18 Thread Addison Phillips [wM]
Hi Martin, I install the Chinese Unicode keyboard myself... When I confronted this specific problem recently in our products, the main solution I adopted was to allow \u notation as input (of course, our products are for developers...) Hope that helps. Addison Addison P. Phillips Director

Re: Unicode Devanagari Font in Mozilla]

2002-07-18 Thread Guntupalli Karunakar
Hi, There is a newsletter at http://tdil.mit.gov.in/news.htm, and the more recent one http://tdil.mit.gov.in/tdiljan2002.pdf ( This describes some font standardization effort ) TDIL - Technology Development in Indian languages , a Ministry IT, GOI supported project, More info at http://tdil

RE: TrueType signature bits and MS Word

2002-07-18 Thread Raymond Mercier
At 08:21 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: >You should always set as much info correctly in the font as you can. >What you are seeing are the results of some workarounds we had to >implement to handle poorly made fonts. That is very interesting. It would always help, I suppose, if editors such as Fo

Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-18 Thread Marion Gunn
Dear Ed, Thank you for your lovely long and private e-mail, which I shall not quote on the list, only referring to its usefulness in prompting me to write this msg to the list, in supplement to my rather blunt note of yesterday. EGT was one of the first companies to give (almost) unqualified s

User interface for keyboard input

2002-07-18 Thread Martin Kochanski
I'm working on Unicode-enabling a database product for Windows. This obviously includes making it possible for a user to type arbitrary Unicode characters, so I thought it might be a good idea to ask people on this list about the input methods that they found most intuitive. Quite apart from yo