Re: Arabic script web site hosting solution for all platforms

2003-06-20 Thread N. R. Liwal
Kenneth Whistler Said; I'd say it might be best to let Sarasvati, in her wisdom, judge what is spam or otherwise prohibited for this list, and those who are interested can go discuss with Lateef Sagar whether his Arabic web site hosting solution works or whatever... I agree with Mr. Kenneth

Re: Chinese departing tone marks

2003-06-20 Thread Andrew C. West
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:38:06 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds, then, like these are *not* two of the left-stemmed tone letters (mirrors of 02E5..02E9) that I'm going to be including in a proposal for additional modifier characters for tone. I noticed that in Yuan Jiahua's

Unicode not in Quark 6

2003-06-20 Thread Michael Everson
I wonder what Quark would do if we all wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to ask for Unicode support. At 11:54 +0530 2003-06-20, Quark Tech. Support wrote: Dear Michael, Thank you for your response. Michael, I thank you for your continuous trust and patronage for our product. Let me first apologize

Re: [ot] anyone know of a good sending accessible emails guideline page?

2003-06-20 Thread Frank da Cruz
does anyone know of a simple, explanatory web page, aimed at not too technical people, based on sending *accessible* email, and if really necessary attachments and the problems related to attachments (specifically inaccessibly, not viruses). i'm looking for a nice concise web page that i

Re: Chinese departing tone marks

2003-06-20 Thread Peter_Constable
Andrew C. West wrote on 06/20/2003 03:59:10 AM: I noticed that in Yuan Jiahua's authoritative overview of Chinese dialects, _Hanyu Fangyan Gaiyao_ (2nd ed., 1980), he uses left-stemmed mirrors of the ordinary right-stemmed tone marks to indicate tone sandhi, the unmutated tone having a right

RE: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Peter_Constable
Edward, thanks for the response. Is it possible to integrate glyph for bold and italic in arialuni.ttf or can I have one font which support all the languages and also have related glyph for bold and italic. Bold and italic need to be separate font files, and these do not exist for Arial

Re: Chinese departing tone marks

2003-06-20 Thread Peter_Constable
Ken Whistler wrote on 06/19/2003 01:35:14 PM: P.S. Is somebody collecting the 'Every character has a story' stories? It's a small start, and I can't guarantee how far it will get developed. http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsiitem_id=CatUnicodeCharacterStories - Peter

Re: Chinese departing tone marks

2003-06-20 Thread Andrew C. West
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:28:12 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hard to say without seeing them, but if they are simply contours, then those are already supported in Unicode by means of ligatures of the five already there. If it's something else, go ahead and send me the scan (with bibliographic

Re: Chinese departing tone marks

2003-06-20 Thread Peter_Constable
Andrew C. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/20/2003 09:14:35 AM: It hadn't occurred to me that these contoured tone marks could be represented in Unicode by means of ligatures. Are there any fonts that currently support such ligatures ? The bigger question is, can your software access the

Re: Chinese departing tone marks

2003-06-20 Thread Andrew C. West
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:27:34 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bigger question is, can your software access the ligatures? Works like a dream with Uniscribe 1.453.3665.0 and later. Andrew

Re: Unicode not in Quark 6

2003-06-20 Thread Richard Cook
Michael Everson wrote: I wonder what Quark would do if we all wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to ask for Unicode support. Good idea. I just did. But, Quark is just the tip of the iceberg. I still need a good (Mac OS X) database that can do Unicode Chinese (including supplemental planes). Any

some resources online

2003-06-20 Thread Peter_Constable
A few years ago, we put together a book of background reading for a workshop we were doing on implementing writing systems on computers using current technologies. The readings consisted of a collection of items that had been prepared by different authors, but there was some coordination of topics

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Christopher John Fynn
- Original Message - From: Jain, Pankaj (MED, TCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Edward H Trager' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: RE: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF Edward, thanks for the response. Is it

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Michael Everson
At 22:29 +0200 2003-06-20, Philippe Verdy wrote: I think that Italic is to avoid for most Asian scripts, as readers are not used to it. For Arabic it may cause problems because of the placement of diacritic points. It sounds as though you are guessing. -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Michael Everson
At 17:03 -0400 2003-06-20, John Cowan wrote: Michael Everson scripsit: I think that Italic is to avoid for most Asian scripts, as readers are not used to it. For Arabic it may cause problems because of the placement of diacritic points. It sounds as though you are guessing. Well, I certainly

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Philippe Verdy, But it's true that complex scripts like Han will be poorly rendered in Bold or Italic... But does someone actually wants to read Han text with Bold characters (or even worse slanted with Italic) ? What is true is that use of italicized text is unusual in Chinese or Japanese

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 02:04, Michael Everson wrote: Roozbeh informs me that oblique [Naskh] is a standard things nowadays, specially since it can usually be done automatically in software. Both slanted and backslanted. Certainly I saw italic signage in Kabul. Just to confirm. BTW, one of

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Michael Everson
At 14:44 -0700 2003-06-20, Kenneth Whistler wrote: I think that Italic is to avoid for most Asian scripts, as readers are not used to it. For body text, in documents or on web pages, I would agree. A wide range of oblique styles have been used in many Indian scripts for a very long time now.

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Richard Cook
On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 02:44 , Kenneth Whistler wrote: What is true is that use of italicized text is unusual in Chinese or Japanese body text--certainly not with the frequency or same range of functions as occurs in Latin typography. Bold text is not that unusual, however. In precomputer

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Michael Everson
At 16:45 -0700 2003-06-20, Richard Cook wrote: Of course, in pop e-print, nearly everything that can be done to a character is done ... including Bold-Ital-Outline-Shadow ... Hey, there's no reason only Latin typography should be filled with vulgarism... -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography

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Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Peter_Constable
Philippe Verdy wrote on 06/20/2003 03:29:17 PM: I think that Italic is to avoid for most Asian scripts, as readers are not used to it. For Arabic it may cause problems because of the placement of diacritic points. Thai type designers are extremely creative and not afraid of doing with Thai

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Kevin Brown
Jain, Pankaj (MED, TCS) wrote: I am generating the PDF using XSLFO/FOP and Arial Unicode MS font for Global languages.And during Implementation I found that Bold/Italics character are not appearing in bold/Italic in PDF which was coming there is any Issue with Arial Unicode Font for