Re: Text Editors and Canonical Equivalence (was Coloured diacriti cs)

2003-12-10 Thread jon
Quoting Peter Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > OK, as a C function handling wchar_t arrays it is not expected to > conform to Unicode. But if it is presented as a function available to > users for handling Unicode text, for determining how many characters (as > defined by Unicode) are in a string, i

Re: Qumran Greek

2003-12-10 Thread Peter Kirk
On 09/12/2003 15:27, Philippe Verdy wrote: ... I had the same feeling when I replied to Elaine that this may be an annotation added by a Coptic scribe within the Hebrew text. But it was hard to guess if this was the case. Coptic religious have made extensive studies in Egypt related to ancient te

RE: Coloured diacritics (Was: Transcoding Tamil in the presence of markup)

2003-12-10 Thread jon
> > I've seen text/cpp and text/java, but really there are no such > > types. I've also > > seen text/x-source-code which is at least legal, if of little value to > > interoperability. > > > > The correct MIME type for C and C++ source files is text/plain. > > This is where I disagree: Brin

Re: Text Editors and Canonical Equivalence (was Coloured diacriti cs)

2003-12-10 Thread Peter Kirk
On 10/12/2003 02:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Peter Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: OK, as a C function handling wchar_t arrays it is not expected to conform to Unicode. But if it is presented as a function available to users for handling Unicode text, for determining how many characters (

RE: XML based mapping files.

2003-12-10 Thread Gupta, Shubhagam
Hi Doug, Thank you for your clarification. It's clear that existing applications with mapping files do not require conversion to XML-based format, in order to conform to Unicode. I am curious however; would you consider XML-based format as the preferred format for future developments, rat

Re: XML based mapping files.

2003-12-10 Thread Doug Ewell
Gupta, Shubhagam wrote: > Thank you for your clarification. It's clear that existing > applications with mapping files do not require conversion to XML-based > format, in order to conform to Unicode. I am curious however; would > you consider XML-based format as the preferred format for future >

Unicode Conferences - Which one?

2003-12-10 Thread Tom Tran
I need to get up to speed quickly on globalization and localization.  I've heard about the Unicode Conference and the Microsoft Global Development and Deployment Conference.  Does anyone have any advice on which one would be more useful to attend?   Tom    

RE: XML based mapping files.

2003-12-10 Thread Bob_Hallissy
On 10/12/2003 15:11:33 unicode-bounce wrote: >I am curious however; would you >consider XML-based format as the preferred format for future >developments, rather than adopting the plain-text "Format A." available >at Unicode website? Be aware that there are classes of mappings which cannot be r

Re: Unicode Conferences - Which one?

2003-12-10 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
I would have to say (as someone who is presenting at both of them!) that it really depends on the platform upon which you are developing and to some extent how much you really feel you need to know about particular topics. The GDDC will cover more info about Microsoft technologies than the IUC cou

RE: Unicode Conferences - Which one?

2003-12-10 Thread Houman Pournasseh
To add to what Michael wrote, GDDC's focus is on hands-on solutions and coding techniques for developing world-ready applications and deploying platforms in multilingual environment. The Unicode conference on the other hand is a forum to showcase breakthroughs in the area of internationalization.

Re: unification (CJKV history) ; Alphabetic Aramaic+ ...

2003-12-10 Thread Markus Scherer
Elaine Keown wrote: Dear Tom Emerson: This history of unification is laid out pretty clearly in Appendix A of TUS. I hope this is online-- ... http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode4.0.0/appA.pdf http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode4.0.0/ markus

Re: XML based mapping files.

2003-12-10 Thread Markus Scherer
Gupta, Shubhagam wrote: ... I am curious however; would you consider XML-based format as the preferred format for future developments, rather than adopting the plain-text "Format A." available at Unicode website? Both the UTR #22 XML format and ICU's .ucm format provide syntax for the distinction

Re: Coloured diacritics

2003-12-10 Thread Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin
On 2003.12.09, 11:25, Peter Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Philippe, you have now stated this (several times). But just a day > earlier you yourself stated that the rule forbidding combining marks > at the start of a string would never be relaxed because it is > fundamental to the XML containme

Re: Text Editors and Canonical Equivalence (was Coloured diacritics)

2003-12-10 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Peter Kirk averred: > Agreed. C9 clearly specifies that a process cannot assume that another > process will give a correct answer to the question "is this string > normalised?", because that is to "assume that another process will make > a distinction between two different, but canonical-equiva

RE: Coloured diacritics

2003-12-10 Thread Philippe Verdy
Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin writes: > On 2003.12.09, 11:25, Peter Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Philippe, you have now stated this (several times). But just a day > > earlier you yourself stated that the rule forbidding combining marks > > at the start of a string would never be relaxed bec

Re: Text Editors and Canonical Equivalence (was Coloured diacritics)

2003-12-10 Thread Peter Kirk
On 10/12/2003 13:36, Kenneth Whistler wrote: Peter Kirk averred: Agreed. C9 clearly specifies that a process cannot assume that another process will give a correct answer to the question "is this string normalised?", because that is to "assume that another process will make a distinction be

Re: Coloured diacritics (Was: Transcoding Tamil in the presence of markup)

2003-12-10 Thread Christopher John Fynn
Peter Kirk wrote: >Consider the following: > (1) {U+00E9} > (2) e{U+0301} > (3) e class="black-text">{U+0301} > (4) e{U+0301} > I would expect (1), (2) and (3) to be rendered identically, and (4) to > differ only in the colour of the accent, just as it would be (apart from > (1) if U+0301 were

Re: Text Editors and Canonical Equivalence (was Coloured diacritics)

2003-12-10 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Peter Kirk continued: > >Once again, people are falling afoul of the subtle distinctions > >that the Unicode conformance clauses are attempting to make. > > > > > In that case the distinctions are too subtle and need to be clarified. > C9 states that "no process can assume that another process