Additional Consonents in Devnagari

2004-01-19 Thread eMantra Information
hi I have a question regarding certain charachers in devnagari unicode pages.There are additional consonents (U+0958) , (U+0959) ,(U+095A) , and why separate code points are defined for these?when such can be formed by combination of (U+ 0915) +(U+093C) =

devnagari presentation of certain ligature

2004-01-19 Thread eMantra Information
hi When i type (U+0924)+ (U+094D) + (U+0928) = I get is not a popular form. where as popular form is . (Atleast in Marathi). for example . (which can be produced by using ZWJ) Why is this so? Can somebody elaborate more on this?

Re: Mongolian Unicoding (was Re: Cuneiform Free Variation Selectors)

2004-01-19 Thread Andrew C. West
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:23:31 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean Snyder wrote, Tom Gewecke wrote at 2:26 PM on Sunday, January 18, 2004: ... Agreed. I can't imagine that anyone who has ever tried to actually do anything with Unicode Mongolian would recommend variation selectors

Re: Mongolian Unicoding (was Re: Cuneiform Free Variation Selectors)

2004-01-19 Thread Dean Snyder
Andrew C. West wrote at 6:43 AM on Monday, January 19, 2004: Knowing nothing about Cuneiform, I can't say whether FVSs are a suitable option for Cuneiform or not, but if Dean is thinking about using FVSs like ordinary Variation Selectors (i.e. applied manually by the user to select a distinct

Re: Mongolian Unicoding (was Re: Cuneiform Free Variation Selectors)

2004-01-19 Thread Dean Snyder
Andrew C. West wrote at 6:43 AM on Monday, January 19, 2004: Once the rules have been established (hopefully soon), and incorporated into the fonts, rendering engines and IMEs, then everything should work like a well-oiled machine. Do legacy Mongolian electronic text systems work well? I ask,

XML Parser for Unicode Big Indian font MSWord document

2004-01-19 Thread N. Ganesh Babu
Dear All, I having XML file in Unicode-Big Indian font created in MS Word. Please let me know whether we can parse the XML file as it is with the MS Word? If yes please let me know the parser name. Thanks, N. Ganesh BabuAsst. Manager (Technology)Integra Software Services Pvt. Ltd.51, 2nd cross,

Re: Additional Consonents in Devnagari

2004-01-19 Thread Doug Ewell
eMantra Information wrote: I have a question regarding certain charachers in devnagari unicode pages. There are additional consonents (U+0958) , (U+0959) ,(U+095A) , and why separate code points are defined for these? when such can be formed by combination of(U+ 0915) +

Re: devnagari presentation of certain ligature

2004-01-19 Thread Doug Ewell
eMantra Information wrote: When i type (U+0924) +(U+094D) + (U+0928) = I get is not a popular form. where as popular form is . (Atleast in Marathi). for example . (which can be produced by using ZWJ) Why is this so? Can somebody elaborate more on this? Some languages want the

Re: Cuneiform Free Variation Selectors

2004-01-19 Thread Dean Snyder
Michael Everson wrote at 4:54 PM on Monday, January 19, 2004: No, we do not need to rehearse the pros and cons of the dynamic model for Cuneiform already. Abundant evidence for why it has not been chosen has already been presented. But NO ONE mentioned free variation selectors in the

Re: Cuneiform Free Variation Selectors

2004-01-19 Thread Michael Everson
At 12:39 -0500 2004-01-19, Dean Snyder wrote: Michael Everson wrote at 4:54 PM on Monday, January 19, 2004: No, we do not need to rehearse the pros and cons of the dynamic model for Cuneiform already. Abundant evidence for why it has not been chosen has already been presented. But NO ONE

Re: XML Parser for Unicode Big Indian font MSWord document

2004-01-19 Thread Markus Scherer
N. Ganesh Babu wrote: I having XML file in Unicode-Big Indian font created in MS Word. Please I believe you mean that you have chosen to save a document in the Unicode Big Endian encoding scheme, formally known as UTF-16BE. An encoding is different from a font. let me know whether we can parse

Re: Cuneiform Free Variation Selectors

2004-01-19 Thread Dean Snyder
Michael Everson wrote at 5:55 PM on Monday, January 19, 2004: At 12:39 -0500 2004-01-19, Dean Snyder wrote: But NO ONE mentioned free variation selectors in the discussion until yesterday. But it's not MAGIC, Dean. Whether it's one of the base signs plus productive modifiers you cooked up in

Re: Cuneiform Free Variation Selectors

2004-01-19 Thread Michael Everson
At 14:14 -0500 2004-01-19, Dean Snyder wrote: But it's not MAGIC, Dean. Whether it's one of the base signs plus productive modifiers you cooked up in December, or whether it's viramas, or zero-width joiners, or variation selectors, It may not be magic but I was basically told it was taboo in

Re: Cuneiform Free Variation Selectors

2004-01-19 Thread John Jenkins
On Jan 19, 2004, at 12:14 PM, Dean Snyder wrote: But now that I know that it is already part of the model for some scripts in Unicode and is being considered for further use, as in Han and Hebrew, I question whether this is the technical hair-brained, off-the-wall idea some have tried to make

Re: Cuneiform Free Variation Selectors

2004-01-19 Thread Doug Ewell
Dean Snyder dean dot snyder at jhu dot edu wrote: But now that I know that it is already part of the model for some scripts in Unicode and is being considered for further use, as in Han and Hebrew, Is it being considered for Han and Hebrew? I hadn't heard that before, and I wonder if that

Re: Cuneiform Free Variation Selectors

2004-01-19 Thread Doug Ewell
I wrote: in matters such as script disambiguation. Huh? I meant glyph distinction, as in selecting Chinese-style vs. Japanese-style glyphs for unified Han characters. Write first, then read, grasshopper. -Doug Ewell Fullerton, California http://users.adelphia.net/~dewell/

Re: devnagari presentation of certain ligature

2004-01-19 Thread John Hudson
At 12:45 AM 1/19/2004, eMantra Information wrote: When i type (U+0924) + (U+094D) + (U+0928) = I get [Conjunct ligature] [This conjunct ligature] is not a popular form. where as popular form is [half-form conjunct]. (Atleast in Marathi). ... Why is this so? Can somebody elaborate more on

Re: Cuneiform Free Variation Selectors

2004-01-19 Thread Peter Kirk
On 19/01/2004 12:08, Doug Ewell wrote: Dean Snyder dean dot snyder at jhu dot edu wrote: But now that I know that it is already part of the model for some scripts in Unicode and is being considered for further use, as in Han and Hebrew, Is it being considered for Han and Hebrew? I

Chinese FVS? (was: RE: Cuneiform Free Variation Selectors)

2004-01-19 Thread Mike Ayers
Title: Chinese FVS? (was: RE: Cuneiform Free Variation Selectors) It use in Han is/will be restricted to cases where a base character can have multiple glyphic forms which some people may want to distinguish in plain text. In all cases where variation selectors are being used,

Re: Chinese FVS? (was: RE: Cuneiform Free Variation Selectors)

2004-01-19 Thread John Jenkins
On Jan 19, 2004, at 3:13 PM, Mike Ayers wrote:     I'm a little confused by this.  I'm sure you're not talking about script variations (traditional/simplified), but I'm not sure what that leaves.  Is this to deal with the variations in numerals (everyday numerals vs. the special ones used

RE: Need Help in developing Unicode font for Devnagari

2004-01-19 Thread Peter Constable
We areplanningto develope a Unicode font for Devanagari. We are in process of completing the Type face design. Now we need consulting help for converting it to Open Type. I suggest you take this question to the OpenType discussion forum. For details, see

RE: [hebrew] ZWJ and ZWNJ in combining sequences, was: New Public Review Issue posted

2004-01-19 Thread Peter Constable
Is there any reason why this needed to be cross-posted to both lists? Certain members of the Hebrew list have had a very bad habit of allowing that discussion to spill over to the Unicode list for no good reason. I hope that responders will be careful in posting to the Hebrew list only. Peter