Re[2]: Fixed Width Spaces (was: Printing and Displaying DependentVowels)

2004-04-03 Thread Alexander Savenkov
Alexander Savenkov suggested: Why not? I think Peter needs a good book on typesetting to find out what is inserted inserted between Louis and XIV. In this case IIRC there should be the following sequence: Louis,ZWNBSP,SP,ZWNBSP,XIV. Kenneth Whistler replied: Uh, no. ZWNBSP, SPACE, ZWNBSP

Re[4]: Fixed Width Spaces (was: Printing and Displaying Depen dentVowels)

2004-04-03 Thread Alexander Savenkov
Hello, 2004-04-03T02:01:34+03:00 /|/|ike Ayers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is arguable. An aural user agent could pronounce 1, 2, 3 a bit different from 1, 2, 3 if there is a (say) thin space between the digits in the latter case. It could pronounce it quicker, for example. It *could* do

Re[4]: Fixed Width Spaces (was: Printing and Displaying DependentVowels)

2004-04-03 Thread Alexander Savenkov
2004-04-03T02:34:38+03:00 D. Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It only affects its (visual) aesthetic quality. That is arguable. An aural user agent could pronounce 1, 2, 3 a bit different from 1, 2, 3 if there is a (say) thin space between the digits in the latter case. It could

Re: Fixed Width Spaces (was: Printing and Displaying DependentVowels)

2004-04-03 Thread Peter Kirk
On 02/04/2004 15:01, Asmus Freytag wrote: ... Think of the example of SHY (soft hyphen), used to mark possible hyphenation points in a word. A while ago we had a discussion on this list where there was an interesting minimal pair of German compounds: Wachs|tu-be (tube of (or made of) wax)

Re: Fixed Width Spaces (was: Printing and Displaying DependentVowels)

2004-04-03 Thread D. Starner
Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] write: But the good screen reader would still need to distinguish their pronunciations. Is there any type of character which could be defined, in Unicode, to preserve this distinction, but to be completely hidden in display? Perhaps some kind of zero width

RE: Fixed Width Spaces

2004-04-03 Thread Ernest Cline
There is at least one instance where NBSP had best be treated as a fixed width space, when it is used as thousands separator as in 100 000. Unicode recognizes it for this use by assigning NBSP the Bidi Class of CS. I doubt if anyone is going to seriously argue that the space between 100 and 000

Re: Fixed Width Spaces (was: Printing and Displaying DependentVowels)

2004-04-03 Thread Peter Kirk
On 03/04/2004 13:24, D. Starner wrote: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] write: But the good screen reader would still need to distinguish their pronunciations. Is there any type of character which could be defined, in Unicode, to preserve this distinction, but to be completely hidden in

Re: Fixed Width Spaces

2004-04-03 Thread Ernest Cline
[Original Message] From: Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is at least one instance where NBSP had best be treated as a fixed width space, when it is used as thousands separator as in 100 000. Unicode recognizes it for this use by assigning NBSP the Bidi Class of CS. I doubt