Re: about P1 part of BIDI alogrithm

2011-10-10 Thread Martin J. Dürst
On 2011/10/11 13:07, Eli Zaretskii wrote: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:53:39 +0900 From: "Martin J. Dürst" CC: li bo, unicode@unicode.org This is different from what you did in Emacs, which I'd call line-folding, i.e. cut the line after a paragraph is laid out and reordered completely as a single (

Re: about P1 part of BIDI alogrithm

2011-10-10 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:53:39 +0900 > From: "Martin J. Dürst" > CC: li bo , unicode@unicode.org > > This is different from what you did in Emacs, which I'd call > line-folding, i.e. cut the line after a paragraph is laid out and > reordered completely as a single (potentially very long) lin

Re: Japanese font on Non-Japanese Android phones

2011-10-10 Thread Philippe Verdy
2011/10/8 Andreas Prilop : > On Fri, 7 Oct 2011, Gerrit wrote: > >> So if somebody from Google reads this, >> [...] >> Additionally, if the standard Android web browser could then >> use the html “lang” tag to select the appropriate font, >> it would be even nicer. > > Mark Davis from Google has co

Re: about P1 part of BIDI alogrithm

2011-10-10 Thread Philippe Verdy
2011/10/11 "Martin J. Dürst" : > > This is different from what you did in Emacs, which I'd call line-folding, > i.e. cut the line after a paragraph is laid out and reordered completely as > a single (potentially very long) line. This makes some sense in Emacs, where > the basic assumption is that l

Re: Solidus variations

2011-10-10 Thread Philippe Verdy
2011/10/11 "Martin J. Dürst" : > Horizontal bars surely work by using bars of differing length, with shorter > bars having higher priority. Horizontal bars of equal length would be very > weird. Not so weird. And not exceptionnal, given the implicit top-to-bottom associativity, there's no confusio

Re: about P1 part of BIDI alogrithm

2011-10-10 Thread Martin J. Dürst
On 2011/10/11 10:29, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote: On 2011/10/10 21:10, Eli Zaretskii wrote: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:47:21 +0800 In addition to the Paragraph Separator, _any_ newline function (LF, CR+LF, CR, or NEL) can end a paragraph. Also U+2028, the LS character. See section 5.8 of the Uni

Re: Solidus variations

2011-10-10 Thread Martin J. Dürst
On 2011/10/11 7:35, Philippe Verdy wrote: I've seen various interpretations, but the ASCII solidus is unambiguously used with a strong left-to-right associativity, and the same occurs in classical mathematics notations (the horizontal bar is another notation but even where it is used, it also ha

Re: about P1 part of BIDI alogrithm

2011-10-10 Thread Martin J. Dürst
On 2011/10/10 21:10, Eli Zaretskii wrote: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:47:21 +0800 From: li bo From section 3: Paragraphs are divided by the Paragraph Separator or appropriate Newline Function (for guidelines on the handling of CR, LF, and CRLF, see Section 4.4, Directionality, and S

Re: Solidus variations

2011-10-10 Thread Philippe Verdy
2011/10/7 Hans Aberg : > On 7 Oct 2011, at 22:22, Murray Sargent wrote: > >> In the linear format of UTN #28, 1/2/3/4 builds up as ((1/2)/3)/4 as in >> computer languages like C. > > OK. I looked through the paper again, and could not find a description of > that. > >> The notation actually start

Re: about P1 part of BIDI alogrithm

2011-10-10 Thread Philippe Verdy
2011/10/10 Eli Zaretskii : >>  what's the meaning of 'appropriate Newline Functions' and 'higher-level >> protocol paragraph determination'? > > Newline Function (NLF) is described in Section 5.8 of Unicode. > Higher-level protocols are described in section 4.3 of UAX#9.  In a > nutshell, your appl

Re: Solidus variations

2011-10-10 Thread Philippe Verdy
2011/10/7 Hans Aberg : > On 7 Oct 2011, at 22:22, Murray Sargent wrote: > >> In the linear format of UTN #28, 1/2/3/4 builds up as ((1/2)/3)/4 as in >> computer languages like C. > > OK. I looked through the paper again, and could not find a description of > that. > >> The notation actually start

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2011-10-10 Thread Philippe Verdy
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Re: about P1 part of BIDI alogrithm

2011-10-10 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:47:21 +0800 > From: li bo > > *P1. Split the text into separate paragraphs. A paragraph separator is kept > with the previous paragraph. Within each paragraph, apply all the other > rules of this algorithm.* > > Here, what does paragraph mean? which symbols can *Split

Re: about assign direction types for characters

2011-10-10 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:24:09 +0800 > From: li bo > Cc: unicode@unicode.org > > ‘You cannot do this in the first place, because the parts of the UBA > before that need to distinguish between segment separators, paragraph > separators, and whitespace.’ > I think you lose a ‘not’ behind 'need'.

Re: about assign direction types for characters

2011-10-10 Thread li bo
Thanks a lot! ‘You cannot do this in the first place, because the parts of the UBA before that need to distinguish between segment separators, paragraph separators, and whitespace.’ I think you lose a ‘not’ behind 'need'. Is that right? On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >

about P1 part of BIDI alogrithm

2011-10-10 Thread li bo
Hi, About P1 in UBA *P1. Split the text into separate paragraphs. A paragraph separator is kept with the previous paragraph. Within each paragraph, apply all the other rules of this algorithm.* Here, what does paragraph mean? which symbols can *Split the text into separate paragraphs? I think only