Re: Hanzi trad-simp folding and z-variants

2013-06-09 Thread john knightley
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Stephan Stiller stephan.stil...@gmail.comwrote: Though some confusion as what other questions are being discussed here. I think I misused the expression folding at some point. But the original query explicitly asked about do[ing] traditional to simplified

Re: Hanzi trad-simp folding and z-variants

2013-06-09 Thread Stephan Stiller
Familiarity with a writing system makes the non-obvious parts comprehensible, as can context. The work is a thorough listing of usage instances that the authors could encounter in the wild. My informants can't recall ever having seen many of these characters. They wouldn't use them, and that

Re: Hanzi trad-simp folding and z-variants

2013-06-09 Thread john knightley
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Stephan Stiller stephan.stil...@gmail.comwrote: Some Cantonese characters, as for Sawndip by their construction tend to be ambiguous which often means 'something which sounds like this known character, and therefore the meaning must be learned. Many

Re: Hanzi trad-simp folding and z-variants

2013-06-09 Thread Stephan Stiller
For me non-standardized' means there is not one recognized standard, this does not mean that things are completely unstable, nor that there are no traditions of what character is used for what word that have been passed down for many generations. /As I stated/, for a decent number of

Re: Hanzi trad-simp folding and z-variants

2013-06-09 Thread john knightley
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Stephan Stiller stephan.stil...@gmail.comwrote: For me non-standardized' means there is not one recognized standard, this does not mean that things are completely unstable, nor that there are no traditions of what character is used for what word that have

Re: Hanzi trad-simp folding and z-variants

2013-06-09 Thread Stephan Stiller
The way the Cheung-Bauer list was compiled certainly hard to see how most of the characters would be in widely known. I'd need to look at CB again for accurate numbers, but to some extent it's simply because some syllable-morphemes are listed with many different attested possibilities. So

Re: Hanzi trad-simp folding and z-variants

2013-06-09 Thread john knightley
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Stephan Stiller stephan.stil...@gmail.comwrote: The way the Cheung-Bauer list was compiled certainly hard to see how most of the characters would be in widely known. I'd need to look at CB again for accurate numbers, but to some extent it's simply because