Re: Henry Luce Foundation Grant to Unicode in Support of Encoding Tangut

2013-09-17 Thread Daode
Lisa Moore li...@us.ibm.com wrote: |Steffen, | |Actually, it is point of fact. The Unicode Consortium was incorporated in |1991 as a not for profit 501 c (6). In 2012, the US and State tax |bodies approved our becoming a not for profit 501 c (3). That change |means that donations to

Re: Henry Luce Foundation Grant to Unicode in Support of Encoding Tangut

2013-09-17 Thread Asmus Freytag
I seems this post is a bit inappropriate for this forum in its content and given its rather bizarre immaturity of interaction with other member, seems altogether more fitting for a kindergarten playground in . It would be nice if such posts could be kept off this list. A./ On 9/17/2013 8:15

Re: Code point vs. scalar value

2013-09-17 Thread Stephan Stiller
[AF:] It is the wording in your posts that adds to the confusion. My fundamental point is, has been, and continues to be that whenever people use the more general word code point instead of the more appropriate scalar value, that will add to the confusion. If you make the presupposition

letters that complete the rectangle in Indic scripts

2013-09-17 Thread Stephan Stiller
I have been told that Devanagari contains letters (or a letter) that were invented merely to complete the rectangular C-V table; not sure to what extent they (or it) were used subsequently. Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari tells me about the letter ॡ (signifying ḹ, I assume

Re: Code point vs. scalar value

2013-09-17 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 9/17/2013 2:55 PM, Stephan Stiller wrote: [AF:] It is the wording in your posts that adds to the confusion. My fundamental point is, has been, and continues to be that whenever people use the more general word code point instead of the more appropriate scalar value, that will add to the

Re: Code point vs. scalar value

2013-09-17 Thread Stephan Stiller
On 9/17/2013 5:27 PM, Asmus Freytag wrote: On 9/17/2013 2:55 PM, Stephan Stiller wrote: [AF:] It is the wording in your posts that adds to the confusion. My fundamental point is, has been, and continues to be that whenever people use the more general word code point instead of the more

Re: letters that complete the rectangle in Indic scripts

2013-09-17 Thread Shriramana Sharma
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:50 AM, Stephan Stiller stephan.stil...@gmail.com wrote: I have been told that Devanagari contains letters (or a letter) that were invented merely to complete the rectangular C-V table; not sure to what extent they (or it) were used subsequently. In which reference is

Re: letters that complete the rectangle in Indic scripts

2013-09-17 Thread Stephan Stiller
I have been told that Devanagari contains letters (or a letter) that were invented merely to complete the rectangular C-V table; not sure to what extent they (or it) were used subsequently. In which reference is this mentioned? I was referring to oral communication (above I wrote I have been

Re: letters that complete the rectangle in Indic scripts

2013-09-17 Thread Philippe Verdy
Don't know what you mean here really, but the Indic scripts work at a core syllabic C-V level, and in order to fit with real languages, it was effectively necessary to fill the holes by inventing the implicit concept of null consonnants that combine with vowels, even of these compound are not

Re: Code point vs. scalar value

2013-09-17 Thread Stephan Stiller
In what way does UTF-16 use surrogate code /points/? An encoding form is a mapping. Let's look at this mapping: * One _inputs_ scalar values (not surrogate code points). * The encoding form will _output_ a short sequence of encoding form–specific code units. (Various voices on this list

Re: Code point vs. scalar value

2013-09-17 Thread Philippe Verdy
2013/9/17 Stephan Stiller stephan.stil...@gmail.com [AF:] Once you add the UTF-prefix, you are, by force, speaking of code units. So the high-low distinction for surrogate code points is misleading, and the surrogate attribute for code point shouldn't be there, because, as I've in fact

Re: Code point vs. scalar value

2013-09-17 Thread Philippe Verdy
2013/9/18 Stephan Stiller stephan.stil...@gmail.com In what way does UTF-16 use surrogate code *points*? An encoding form is a mapping. Let's look at this mapping: - One *inputs* scalar values (not surrogate code points). In fact the input is one code point. Then only if that code