On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Mark E. Shoulson wrote:
> Statelessness looks more like an ideal; the current reality already
> violates it.
The question is whether that ideal is "violated" because of choice or out
of necessity; bidi-related stateful format codes specifically seem like a
case
On 03/26/2015 08:01 PM, Leo Broukhis wrote:
Exact semantics of formatting characters aside, it is best to define
plain text as a stateless stream.
Well, not strictly true. Or at least, Unicode text is not quite
stateless. We have these directional overrides and embeddings and
isolates... The
Exact semantics of formatting characters aside, it is best to define plain
text as a stateless stream. The characters you're proposing require a
decoder to keep state, therefore they won't do. At most you may ask for
*U+E1001 COMBINING ITALICIZER
*U+E1003 COMBINING BOLDIFIER
after all, we already h
On 03/26/2015 11:18 AM, William_J_G Overington wrote:
> Blocks of boring plain text, no italics or effects any more complex
than justification, simple notes written all in one font with no
formatting to speak of etc.
I am wondering if it is considered a good idea to define into Plane 14
some
On 03/26/2015 01:14 AM, Jonathan Rosenne wrote:
“It's still a HEH, it just looks like another letter, right?” Wrong.
It’s a QOF. Just like the p in receipt is a p. Unicode should not
concern itself with the reasons words are spelt the way they are spelt.
Good enough point. And I suppose w
Many years ago, in the initial days of Unicode development, I discussed it
with a colleague at DEC. His response was that Unicode would become weighed
down with all sorts of junk getting added to it. Over twenty years later
Unicode's huge success comes from not having done that. It is not going to
Hi everyone,
Just a quick reminder that the Call for participation in IUC #39 is now
open, and the deadline for submitting an abstract is coming up quickly:
April 3.
All the information is here, on the conference website:
http://www.unicodeconference.org/
The conference itself is Octobe
Or to put it another way, you are inventing what is essentially another markup
language.
If you are going to tag text with styling, why not just use one of the many
existing markup schemes used in html, bulletin boards, wiki, etc.?
tex
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> I am wondering if it is considered a good idea to define into Plane 14 some
> formatting characters, so that plain text could in the future contain italics
> and so on.
No, it would not then be “plain text”
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On 3/26/2015 8:18 AM, William_J_G
Overington wrote:
> Blocks of boring plain text, no italics or
effects any more complex than justification, simple notes written
all in one font with no formatting to speak of etc.
I am wondering if it is co
> Blocks
of boring plain text, no italics or effects any more complex than
justification, simple notes written all in one font with no
formatting to speak of etc.
I am wondering if it is considered a good idea to define into Plane 14 some
formatting characters, so that plain text could
On 3/25/2015 10:14 PM, Jonathan Rosenne wrote:
“It's still a HEH, it just looks like another letter, right?” Wrong.
It’s a QOF. Just like the p in receipt is a p. Unicode should not
concern itself with the reasons words are spelt the way they are spelt.
Identifying deliberate misspellings
Peter Constable wrote:
>> It's a known font bug. It's been around since at least 2010. It's
>> probably not the end of the world.
>
> It's the first time it was retorted to us, AFAIK.
(I assume "reported" unless the report was made in a caustic manner. :)
Here's a post to Microsoft Community fr
It only provides a "stand-in" glyph if you don't otherwise have a font for
that character on your system. That "stand-in" just indicates the type of
character (eg script).
No single font with current technology can handle all of Unicode. The most
complete open font set I know of is the Noto family
Similar but with a couple differences. Most important would be getting vendors
to actually use the font. Also it should be appropriate to actually display the
characters rather than being debugging information.
Does this last resort font represent every character in some meaningful way?
e.g. I'
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