RE: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Erkki I Kolehmainen
+1 I cannot but agree with Asmus. Sincerely, Erkki Lähettäjä: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] Puolesta Asmus Freytag (t) Lähetetty: 7. tammikuuta 2016 01:19 Vastaanottaja: unicode@unicode.org Aihe: Re: Unicode in the Curriculum? On 1/6/2016 10:59 AM, Shawn Steele wrote

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
On 1/6/2016 3:27 PM, Shawn Steele wrote: Then it should be UTF-8. Learning to do something in a non-Unicode code page and then redoing it for UTF-8 or UTF-16 merely leads to conversion problems, incompatibilities, and other nonsense. Agreed. But so does teaching people that it's OK to us

RE: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Shawn Steele
Ø I think any training in non-Unicode character sets is beyond a standard curriculum, except perhaps History of Computing or Digital Archaeology :) One could only hope.

RE: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Shawn Steele
Then it should be UTF-8. Learning to do something in a non-Unicode code page and then redoing it for UTF-8 or UTF-16 merely leads to conversion problems, incompatibilities, and other nonsense. If someone “needs” to not use UTF-16 for whatever reason, then they should use UTF-8. The “advanced”

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
On 1/6/2016 10:59 AM, Shawn Steele wrote: +1 :) I'm not going to join the happy chorus here. The "bunny" slope for most people is their own native language... A./ -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicod

Re: HENTAIGANA LETTER E-1

2016-01-06 Thread Garth Wallace
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Michael Everson wrote: > On 6 Jan 2016, at 14:42, David Corbett wrote: >> >> Is there a difference between HENTAIGANA LETTER E-1 in L2/15-343 and >> U+1B001 HIRAGANA LETTER ARCHAIC YE? > > No, there is not. The former would be unified with it. > > Michael Everson *

RE: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Shawn Steele
+1 :) -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Ken Whistler Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 7:44 AM To: Andre Schappo Cc: unicode@unicode.org Subject: Re: Unicode in the Curriculum? Actually, ASCII should *not* be ignored or deprecated. We *

Re: HENTAIGANA LETTER E-1

2016-01-06 Thread Michael Everson
On 6 Jan 2016, at 14:42, David Corbett wrote: > > Is there a difference between HENTAIGANA LETTER E-1 in L2/15-343 and > U+1B001 HIRAGANA LETTER ARCHAIC YE? No, there is not. The former would be unified with it. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

HENTAIGANA LETTER E-1

2016-01-06 Thread David Corbett
Is there a difference between HENTAIGANA LETTER E-1 in L2/15-343 and U+1B001 HIRAGANA LETTER ARCHAIC YE?

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Ken Whistler
Actually, ASCII should *not* be ignored or deprecated. We *love* ASCII. The issue is just making sure that students understand that the *true name* of "ASCII" is "UTF-8". It is just the very first 128 values that open into the entire world of Unicode characters. It is a mind trick to play on you

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Andre Schappo
On 4 Jan 2016, at 16:59, Asmus Freytag (t) wrote: > On 1/4/2016 6:44 AM, Elizabeth J. Pyatt wrote: >> Like some others on the list, I believe Unicode should be mentioned at >> different points in a programming curriculum, particularly at the time when >> ASCII would be taught. > ASCII shouldn'