Dates in Japanese Era Names in Unicode Standard

2016-09-28 Thread Junichi Chiba
Dear all, Nice to e-meet you. I'm looking at the latest Unicode Standard [1] listing the dates for Japanese Era Names in Table 22-8. What I noticed is the begin and end dates for each era. They seem to have one day difference with the dates that are recognized publicly in Japan. For example, the

Re: IJ with accent

2016-09-28 Thread Kent Karlsson
Den 2016-09-28 22:48, skrev "Richard Wordingham" : > On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 12:30:04 -0700 > "Doug Ewell" wrote: > >>> Technically I see one, as bíj́na shound never break between í and >>> j́, >> >> These wor- >> ds should not bre- >> ak at

Re: IJ with accent

2016-09-28 Thread Kent Karlsson
Den 2016-09-29 00:12, skrev "Alex Plantema" : > Op woensdag 28 september 2016 09:59 schreef a.lukyanov: > >> Dutch language writing uses the ligature ij (U+0132, U+0133). When accented, >> it should take an accent on each component, like this: >> >> If one uses two

Re: IJ with accent

2016-09-28 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 23:22:34 +0200 Philippe Verdy wrote: > 2016-09-28 22:48 GMT+02:00 Richard Wordingham < > richard.wording...@ntlworld.com>: > > > On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 12:30:04 -0700 > > "Doug Ewell" wrote: > > > > > > Technically I see one, as bíj́na

Re: IJ with accent

2016-09-28 Thread Michael Everson
On 28 Sep 2016, at 15:12, Alex Plantema wrote: > I've never seen an ij with an accent. You can safely assume it's never needed. I’ve had people request that I add support for it to Everson Mono, so I safely assume that it’s sometimes needed. ;-) Michael

Re: IJ with accent

2016-09-28 Thread Alex Plantema
Op woensdag 28 september 2016 09:59 schreef a.lukyanov: Dutch language writing uses the ligature ij (U+0132, U+0133). When accented, it should take an accent on each component, like this: If one uses two separate characters (i+j), one can put an accent on each character (íj́). However, if

Re: IJ with accent

2016-09-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
2016-09-28 22:48 GMT+02:00 Richard Wordingham < richard.wording...@ntlworld.com>: > On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 12:30:04 -0700 > "Doug Ewell" wrote: > > > > Technically I see one, as bíj́na shound never break between í and > > > j́, > > > > These wor- > > ds should not bre- > > ak at

Re: IJ with accent

2016-09-28 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 12:30:04 -0700 "Doug Ewell" wrote: > > Technically I see one, as bíj́na shound never break between í and > > j́, > > These wor- > ds should not bre- > ak at the places wh- > ere I have broken t- > hem > > but they don't need embedded control characters to

Re: IJ with accent

2016-09-28 Thread Charlie Ruland
Brill fonts (designed by John Hudson and © by Koninklijke Brill NV) draw ij́ and IJ́ with two acute accents. The right way to do this is to follow the ligature (capital or small) with U+0301 and then have your font draw two acute accents on the

Re: IJ with accent

2016-09-28 Thread Michael Everson
The right way to do this is to follow the ligature (capital or small) with U+0301 and then have your font draw two acute accents on the ligature. > On 28 Sep 2016, at 00:59, a.lukyanov wrote: > > Dutch language writing uses the ligature ij (U+0132, U+0133). When accented,

Re: IJ with accent

2016-09-28 Thread Doug Ewell
> Technically I see one, as bíj́na shound never break between í and j́, These wor- ds should not bre- ak at the places wh- ere I have broken t- hem but they don't need embedded control characters to enforce that. -- Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org

Re: IJ with accent

2016-09-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
Technically I see one, as bíj́na shound never break between í and j́, and they should remain ligated (or their kerning kept), even if interletter spacing is enabled (that's whay the letter is frequently rendered also as "ÿ". When converting to CAPITALS, they form a ligature looking more like Ü

Re: IJ with accent

2016-09-28 Thread Markus Scherer
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Philippe Verdy wrote: > My opinion is to put an accent on each letter and join them with a joiner > I don't see a reason for the joiner. markus

Re: IJ with accent

2016-09-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
There's a double acute accent which you could use on the ij ligature. But it causes search problems when the ij ligature is separable, giving then (the double acute accent is not decomposable). My opinion is to put an accent on each letter and join them with a joiner, either as

IJ with accent

2016-09-28 Thread a.lukyanov
Dutch language writing uses the ligature ij (U+0132, U+0133). When accented, it should take an accent on each component, like this: If one uses two separate characters (i+j), one can put an accent on each character (íj́). However, if monolithic ligature ij is used, how one can accent it

Re: graphemes

2016-09-28 Thread Philippe Verdy
2016-09-28 10:24 GMT+02:00 Christoph Päper : > > My oldest quote is from Heller 1980, but I think it was introduced earlier > (maybe by Gelb). McLaughlin 1963 proposes “graphoneme”. The terms are not > very common, probably because everyone just uses their definition

Re: graphemes

2016-09-28 Thread Christoph Päper
Janusz S. Bień : > On Tue, Sep 27 2016 at 16:28 CEST, christoph.pae...@crissov.de writes: >>> And what is "grapheme" in "technical (i.e. Unicode) jargon"? >> >> It depends on the script (hence Unicode block), but not the writing >> system or language. The line is not always