Re: Counting Devanagari Aksharas

2017-04-20 Thread Anshuman Pandey via Unicode
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Richard Wordingham via Unicode > wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 14:14:00 -0700 > Manish Goregaokar via Unicode wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Richard Wordingham via Unicode >> wrote:

Re: Counting Devanagari Aksharas

2017-04-20 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 14:14:00 -0700 Manish Goregaokar via Unicode wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Richard Wordingham via Unicode > wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:17:05 -0700 > > Manish Goregaokar via Unicode wrote: >

Re: Counting Devanagari Aksharas

2017-04-20 Thread Manish Goregaokar via Unicode
I mean, we do the same for Hangul. The main time you need intra-conjunct segmentation in Devanagari is when deleting something you just typed. And backspace usually operates on code points anyway (except for some weird cases like flag emoji, though this isn't uniform across platforms). I don't

Re: Counting Devanagari Aksharas

2017-04-20 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:17:05 -0700 Manish Goregaokar via Unicode wrote: > When given a rendered representation people seem to uniformly count > conjuncts as multiple aksharas if rendered with visible halant, and as > a single akshara if they are rendered conjoined. Now,

Re: Counting Devanagari Aksharas

2017-04-20 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 15:33:37 +0530 Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote: > All I can say is that Tamil script has eschewed most consonant cluster > ligatures/conjoining forms. As for Devanagari, writing श्रीमान्‌को (I > used ZWNJ) i.o. श्रीमान्को is quite possible with

Re: Counting Devanagari Aksharas

2017-04-20 Thread Manish Goregaokar via Unicode
I don't think there's consensus. When given a rendered representation people seem to uniformly count conjuncts as multiple aksharas if rendered with visible halant, and as a single akshara if they are rendered conjoined. Most fonts for devanagari these days are pretty good at conjoining

Re: Counting Devanagari Aksharas

2017-04-20 Thread Shriramana Sharma via Unicode
Hello Richard. Yes my earlier reply wasn't intended to be offlist. I have near-zero knowledge about non-Indic languages. All I can say is that Tamil script has eschewed most consonant cluster ligatures/conjoining forms. As for Devanagari, writing श्रीमान्‌को (I used ZWNJ) i.o. श्रीमान्को is quite

Re: Counting Devanagari Aksharas

2017-04-20 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
I was offered the following reply: > To my knowledge except in Tamil script vowel less consonants in > written form aren't considered as separate "akshara"s in native > terminology. Word-finally they seem to be being treated as such. To be more precise, a final cluster of one or more consonants