Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-26 Thread Norbert Lindenberg via Unicode
ECMAScript 6 fixed that, largely along the lines of my proposal: http://norbertlindenberg.com/2012/05/ecmascript-supplementary-characters/index.html Norbert > On Aug 24, 2017, at 22:14 , Peter Constable via Unicode > wrote: > > I thought Javascript had a UCS-2 understanding of Unicode strings

Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-26 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 12:57:37 +0100 (BST) William_J_G Overington via Unicode wrote: > UTF-16 is very useful. I use it in my research project. > If the byte content of a UTF-16 file is displayed in a hexadecimal > display then for all plane 0 characters the byte content of the > character codes ar

Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-26 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 09:36:00 +0300 Eli Zaretskii via Unicode wrote: > > Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 00:23:40 +0100 > > From: Richard Wordingham via Unicode > > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 17:17:10 + > > Andre Schappo via Unicode wrote: > > > > > So, I consider it important to familiarise student

Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-26 Thread Eli Zaretskii via Unicode
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:09:33 +0100 > From: Richard Wordingham via Unicode > > > > Just steer them away from UTF-16! > > > > Which will leave them entirely unprepared for the MS-Windows Unicode > > programming, something they of course will never need in their > > careers. > > It shouldn'

Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-26 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 18:55:25 +0300 Eli Zaretskii via Unicode wrote: > > Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:09:33 +0100 > > From: Richard Wordingham via Unicode > > It shouldn't. UTF-16 works just like UTF-8, except that the code > > units are bigger. > Not really, since UTF-8 doesn't have surrogates

Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-26 Thread Eli Zaretskii via Unicode
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 18:52:03 +0100 > From: Richard Wordingham via Unicode > > > > It shouldn't. UTF-16 works just like UTF-8, except that the code > > > units are bigger. > > > Not really, since UTF-8 doesn't have surrogates. > > It has 115 surrogates, thoroughly oppressed by the UTC -

Character Sequences of Uncertain Rendering (was: Version linking?)

2017-08-26 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:24:36 +0200 Philippe Verdy via Unicode wrote: > 2017-08-17 22:37 GMT+02:00 Richard Wordingham via Unicode < > unicode@unicode.org>: > > > Fortunately, there is no good evidence that the occurrence > > of multiple distinct left matras is anything but a typing error, > > t

Re: Character Sequences of Uncertain Rendering (was: Version linking?)

2017-08-26 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
2017-08-26 21:28 GMT+02:00 Richard Wordingham via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org>: > > I'm wondering if there are any cases where a SHY _should_ go between a > Latin letter and diacritic. I can't think of any. > In standard Latin orthography you would not expect it, normally, but there will be ca

Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-26 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 21:20:45 +0300 Eli Zaretskii via Unicode wrote: > > Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 18:52:03 +0100 > > From: Richard Wordingham via Unicode > We are miscommunicating. My point was that programming for MS-Windows > needs a good understanding of what the UTF-16 surrogates are, and in

Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-26 Thread Eli Zaretskii via Unicode
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 22:07:57 +0100 > From: Richard Wordingham via Unicode > > > We are miscommunicating. My point was that programming for MS-Windows > > needs a good understanding of what the UTF-16 surrogates are, and in > > what MS-Windows APIs/library functions they can and cannot be us

Re: Character Sequences of Uncertain Rendering (was: Version linking?)

2017-08-26 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 21:52:19 +0200 Philippe Verdy via Unicode wrote: > 2017-08-26 21:28 GMT+02:00 Richard Wordingham via Unicode < > unicode@unicode.org>: > Of course SHY in this use is not suitable, but who knows if one will > not need this to split in tow parts what would be otherwise a sing

Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-26 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 09:36:44 -0400 John W Kennedy wrote: > Just a reminder that in Apple’s Swift a “Character” is anything that > looks like a character, including a letter with any theoretically > unlimited stack of diacritics, a flag, or a skin-toned emoji, and all > Swift functions working wit