On Thu, Nov 05, 2015 at 08:57:16AM -0700, Karl Williamson wrote:
> Several of us are wondering about the reason for reserving bits for
> the extended UTF-8 in perl5. I'm asking you because you are the
> apparent author of the commits that did this.
To start, the INTERNAL REPRESENTATION of Perl’s
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 07:07:01AM +0200, Philippe Verdy wrote:
1) the characters required do not all exist as precomposed characters
thus microsoft's dead key sequences will not work for yoruba.
(As I said in my other email, the conclusion is wrong.)
It's effectively a good catch that
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 08:46:31AM +0200, Philippe Verdy wrote:
Well that CPAN doc page is also full of junks, with considerations about a
particular layout design for extended Latin, that should have been placed
on a separate page for that layout.
If you think it is junk, please write a
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 01:19:23AM +0100, Luis de la Orden wrote:
Thanks for challenging my understanding of dead keys. I have a layout in my
Mac that works like a charm to write Yorùbá, Portuguese and Spanish with
the UK layout. I am having trouble with the Windows layout and should have
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 01:06:51PM +1000, Andrew Cunningham wrote:
The problem with approach documented below is two fold:
1) the characters required do not all exist as precomposed characters thus
microsoft's dead key sequences will not work for yoruba.
As I explained in my mail, this is
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 02:39:58PM -0800, Garth Wallace wrote:
I'm leaning towards turned, left rotated, and right rotated for
the cardinal orientations,
…
Please keep in mind that left/right are especially bad terms to
describe rotations. When you rotate the
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 06:30:37PM +, Whistler, Ken wrote:
Could the characters SWR2 to SWR8 be applied to chess symbols or should
new rotation modifiers be created for them?
They aren't currently defined to do so -- and there is certainly a danger in
opening up the applicability to
Oups, I forgot to update the subject, AND made a misprint
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 02:01:09PM -0800, I wrote:
See, for example, the Mr Potato Head font
http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2014-m09/0003.html
; using the same principles, one could encode most (all?) of the hand
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:43:05AM +0100, Jean-François Colson wrote:
(I believe that people associate left ↔ counterclockwise etc only
because for many shapes, visually, the bottom is just a pedestal
for the top. So you “grab” the shape “on top”.]
Look at this picture:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 09:26:21AM -0600, Doug Ewell wrote:
It's a bit like the locale collections (CLDR is not alone here) that
specify a single date format for an entire country, as if all
Americans only ever write a short date as m/dd/yy and anyone who
uses a different format is employing
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 04:21:23PM +0600, Christopher Fynn wrote:
Indic scripts generally have a hanging base
Sure. And many mathematical symbols should have a “math-centerline base”.
However, the font files I’m working with do not have the information
about where these extra baselines are
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 06:15:44PM -0700, Asmus Freytag wrote:
On 4/23/2014 4:41 PM, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
GREED) Given any close-delimiter marked as “non-matching”, its
pre-context does not contain any open-delimiter which could
match it.
Here pre-context
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 09:06:27AM -0700, Asmus Freytag wrote:
if you read UAX#9, the way the algorithm works is by pushing openers
on a stack, then, on finding the first closer, going down the stack
and attempting to locate a match, then, on finding a match,
discarding any enclosed openers,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 09:21:04AM -0700, Asmus Freytag wrote:
a parsing is good if it satisfies all conditions below:
0) Some delimiters in the string are marked as “non-matching”; the rest
is broken into disjoint “matched” pairs;
MATCH) A “matched” pair consists of an
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 06:25:53PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
I see nothing in your definition that is significantly different from
our attempts. It does feel more complex, mainly because you have much
more conditions, combining which in one's mind might not be easy at
first reading.
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:25:05PM -0700, Asmus Freytag wrote:
On 4/21/2014 8:32 PM, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 06:08:12PM -0700, Asmus Freytag wrote:
Here's the text I supplied, with numbers added for discussion. It
definitely needs some
editing, but the point
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 07:08:56PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
Sorry, I do not see any definition here. Just a collection of words
which looks like a definition, but only locally…
Any definition is just a collection of words, of course. Can you tell
what is missing from this collection
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 02:44:14PM -0700, Asmus Freytag wrote:
On 4/21/2014 1:54 PM, Philippe Verdy wrote:
My intent was not to demonstrate a bug in the algorithm, I have
not even claimed that, but to make sure that (less common) usages
of paired brackets that do not obey to a pure hierarchy
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 06:08:12PM -0700, Asmus Freytag wrote:
Here's the text I supplied, with numbers added for discussion. It
definitely needs some
editing, but the point of the exercise would be to see what:
1. A bracket pair is a pair of characters consisting of an opening
Current (and 7.0.0-tobe) versions do not say much:
23AF HORIZONTAL LINE EXTENSION
* used for extension of arrows
x (vertical line extension - 23D0)
If it is intended to be a variation selector (possibly prepended
instead of appended!), then using it with ⇒ should give longer
The current version (and 7.0.0-tobe) describe them as:
@ Scan lines for terminal graphics
@+ The scan line numbers here refer to old,
low-resolution technology for terminals, with only 9 scan lines per
fixed-size character glyph. Even-numbered scan lines
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:00:08AM -0700, James Lin wrote:
Everyone can guess what are the following emoji that used frequently in
Japan:
What makes you think so? I would not have a slightest clue what the
intended meaning is…
ヽ(￣д￣;)ノ - worried
[I removed the rest since they crash the
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 09:01:39AM +0200, Mark Davis ☕️ wrote:
More emoji from Chrome:
http://chrome.blogspot.ch/2014/04/a-faster-mobiler-web-with-emoji.html
with video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3NXNnoGr3Y
I do not know… The demos leave me completely unimpressed: emoji — by
their
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 07:32:44PM +0200, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
2013-11-01 17:37, Jennifer Wong wrote:
I would like to ask for advice on removing accents from characters.
To address first the question you ask in the Subject line, “How to
remove accents while conforming to language
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 01:07:44AM +0100, Pierpaolo Bernardi wrote:
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Ilya Zakharevich
nospam-ab...@ilyaz.org wrote:
Given that
the initial question was more or less explicitly formulated as “how to
minimize the losses?”,
The initial question
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 02:34:19PM +0200, Jean-François Colson wrote:
Hello
Trying to solve a 2 × 2 × 2 Rubik’s cube, I was looking for some
help on the web when I found a handful of unknown arrows.
I had never seen them before, but I understood their meaning at first sight.
Since they are
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 09:21:47PM +0200, Philippe Verdy wrote:
If there's something to do now (given it is no longer used in CJK
contexts), it's to strongly recommand that fonts map them to exactly the
same glyph as the one obtained by aligning three periods in a raw without
any additional
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 08:19:54PM +0100, Michael Everson wrote:
And as a book designer and publisher, I think that having large spaces after
a full stop is both unnecessary and vulgar.
As a book consumer, I know that having somewhat larger space after
end-of-sentence is a MUST (at least for
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 09:06:54PM +0300, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
And below the university level Germans
write { }, which I like better.
The notation { } is quite correct.
IMO, in math texts the correctness is significantly less important
than being not ambiguous. (It is practically
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 07:07:23PM +, Costello, Roger L. wrote:
For example, can some text be encoded as UTF-8 while other text is encoded as
UTF-16 - within the same document?
I think it is a very interesting question. A Perl program is
(obviously) a text document. On the other hand,
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 04:24:36AM +, Murray Sargent wrote:
Ilya asked, Are there any other ways to show Unicode on Windows?
You can download Unibook (http://www.unicode.org/unibook/) and set up your
fonts for the ranges. That's the way The Unicode Standard code charts are
displayed
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 03:19:44AM +, Peter Constable wrote:
Why would one NEED to upgrade the OS to use Old Italic?
You can't expect an OS like Windows XP to support Old Italic
characters that weren't even defined in Unicode at the time it
shipped.
Yes I can. And did not you notice
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 08:28:07AM +0100, Richard Wordingham wrote:
Just in case: do you realize that out-of-BMP must be specified via
LIGATURES section?
Yes, for 'character' read UTF-16 code element. Even worse, you can't
use dead keys outside the BMP, which prevents one using MSKLC for
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 04:00:26AM -0700, Stephan Stiller wrote:
I'd consider U+22C4 DIAMOND OPERATOR as wrong because it is used
as a binary operator
I'm thinking that binary infix symbol and unary prefix symbol
might be appropriate terminology too.
which has a very different spacing than
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:04:10AM +0100, Richard Wordingham wrote:
(LCID); I don't see any way to check what the general .klc file format
is - the format seemed very delicate when I had to edit it by hand, at
least, not for the SMP.
I wonder whether this link is relevant to what you discuss:
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 04:46:23AM +, Peter Constable wrote:
Your Tai Tham situation is, of course, exceptional. For a lot of
users, though, if they would only update their XP machines to even
Windows 7, if not Windows 8.1, they'd find a lot of characters
they've been missing are well
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 05:15:51AM +, Murray Sargent wrote:
A bulk approach works. The hyperlink gives full instructions on how to set up
the fonts. You can customize it by changing the fonts listed in default.cfl.
Thanks.
——
I put some info on the subject into
http://search.cpan.org/~ilyaz/UI-KeyboardLayout/lib/UI/KeyboardLayout.pm#There_is_no_way_to_show_Unicode_contents_on_Windows
Are there any other ways to show Unicode on Windows? (Here I mean
showing “real” Unicode, not the subset of Unicode MicroSoft decided
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 04:24:36AM +, Murray Sargent wrote:
Ilya asked, Are there any other ways to show Unicode on Windows?
You can download Unibook (http://www.unicode.org/unibook/) and set up your
fonts for the ranges. That's the way The Unicode Standard code charts are
displayed
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 09:27:49AM +0100, Michael Everson wrote:
On 19 Jun 2013, at 18:24, Richard Wordingham
richard.wording...@ntlworld.com wrote:
The X11 restriction of one character per key stroke is not so easy to get
round.
Get them to fix X11.
It looks like you think that X11 is
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 01:29:07PM -0700, announceme...@unicode.org wrote:
UTS #18, Unicode Regular Expressions, is being updated to bring it
into alignment with Unicode 6.3.
[This comment is not on the updates, but on the base text of #18.]
Sec3.2 says:
For example, an implementation
[This is my first posting to this newsgroup]
As a part of separate project, I collected a certain collection of
Fabulously Attractive Answers on this mailing list.
[This is my second posting to this newsgroup]
I think some people may find this keyboard layout useful — although
its documentation is somewhat uneven nowadays. It is the principal
example of possibilities of the toolset UI::KeyboardLayout for
designing quality keyboard layouts.
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