Re: Upside Down Fu character

2012-01-09 Thread Peter Cyrus
This discussion has veered close enough to my pet project (the Shwa script) to comment. I plan to implement it in the PUA, both to demonstrate its value and viability and to find the problems and correct them before they get frozen into Unicode (if ever). I accept that means an eventual

Re: Sorting and Volapük

2012-01-01 Thread Peter Cyrus
German does both, so there may be a CLDR locale for the choice you need. On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com wrote: Swedish and Finnish treat ä and ö as separate letters of the alphabet, but sort them at the end after z. Volapük sorts a ä b c d e f g h i j k

Re: Sorting and German (was: Sorting and Volapük)

2012-01-01 Thread Peter Cyrus
, and ü separate after u. does anyone know if any other language treats ä/ö/ü in the same way? Am 2012-01-01 16:54, schrieb Peter Cyrus: German does both, Not really. According to DIN 5007, German features two different sort orders: • In lists of personal names, Ä, Ö, Ü may be sorted

empty codepoints at 00 and FF?

2011-12-12 Thread Peter Cyrus
I'm sure this is explained somewhere, but I can't find it. Must blocks leave the first and last codepoints unassigned?

Re: missing characters: combining marks above runs of more than 2 base letters

2011-11-18 Thread Peter Cyrus
Ken, you mention defined markup constructions, but nothing would prevent specialized rendering software from, for example, connecting a left half mark with the corresponding right half mark via titlo, even though the text is still only plain text with no markup, right? The titlo would simply not

Re: missing characters: combining marks above runs of more than 2 base letters

2011-11-18 Thread Peter Cyrus
of even OpenType advancexd typography features. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Ken Whistler k...@sybase.com wrote: On 11/18/2011 11:21 AM, Peter Cyrus wrote: Ken, you mention defined markup constructions, but nothing would prevent specialized rendering software from, for example, connecting

more flexible pipeline for new scripts and characters

2011-11-16 Thread Peter Cyrus
I've only been on this list for some months, and I only came to it with my own little project in mind, but it occurs to me, as I follow all these threads, that Unicode might benefit from a more flexible process of adaptation, of Unicodification. The model would be an asymptotic approach to

Re: more flexible pipeline for new scripts and characters

2011-11-16 Thread Peter Cyrus
I guess what I'm proposing is that the proposed allocations be implemented, so that problems may be unearthed, even as the users accept that the standard is still only provisional. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Asmus Freytag asm...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Peter, in principle, the idea of a

Re: definition of plain text

2011-10-17 Thread Peter Cyrus
, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Richard Wordingham richard.wording...@ntlworld.com wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:37:20 +0200 Peter Cyrus pcy...@alivox.net wrote: Perhaps, awkwardly.  But that is ultimately equivalent to marking the gait on every letter, in which case I probably wouldn't need to distinguish

Re: definition of plain text

2011-10-17 Thread Peter Cyrus
It's been done already : the International Phonetic Alphabet. If we all just wrote in that, it would make Unicode much easier to implement, too. I'm just working on Plan B, just in case. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Ken Whistler k...@sybase.com wrote: On 10/17/2011 1:23 AM, Peter Cyrus

Re: definition of plain text

2011-10-17 Thread Peter Cyrus
Your idea of propagation seems worth exploring - thanks! On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Richard Wordingham richard.wording...@ntlworld.com wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:37:20 +0200 Peter Cyrus pcy...@alivox.net wrote: Perhaps, awkwardly.  But that is ultimately equivalent to marking

definition of plain text

2011-10-14 Thread Peter Cyrus
Is there a definition or guideline for the distinction between plain text and rich text? For example, in the expression 3², the exponent is a single character, superscript two. Semantically, this expression is equivalent to 3^2, using a visible character to indicate exponentiation and then

Re: definition of plain text

2011-10-14 Thread Peter Cyrus
Ken, your explanation seems more permissive than I had anticipated. Your example of 3sup2/sup would seem to me at risk of behaving in unforeseen ways if, for instance, it were split up. Wouldn't it match a string up 2? Wouldn't it fail to match 3²? I guess I thought that plain text should be