Re: (long) Making orthographies computer-ready (was *not* Telephoning Tamil)

2002-07-30 Thread Peter_Constable
On 07/30/2002 06:32:07 AM John Cowan wrote: >> The industry needs to wake up to the fact >> that the requirement that a language have an ISO-639 2-letter code before a >> locale can be created is a dead end. > >These words deserve to be written up in letters of gold. I like that. (Where are tho

Re: (long) Making orthographies computer-ready (was *not* Telephoning Tamil)

2002-07-30 Thread John Cowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit: > The industry needs to wake up to the fact > that the requirement that a language have an ISO-639 2-letter code before a > locale can be created is a dead end. These words deserve to be written up in letters of gold. > Well, I'm pretty sure Hawaiian isn't going to

RE: (long) Making orthographies computer-ready (was *not* Telephoning Tamil)

2002-07-29 Thread Addison Phillips [wM]
> > > One that occurs to me might be the Khoisan languages of Africa, > > which I believe commonly use "!" (U+0021) for a click sound. > > This is almost exactly the same problem you are describing for Tongva. > > U+01C3 LATIN LETTER RETROFLEX CLICK (General Category Lo) was > encoded precisely fo

Re: (long) Making orthographies computer-ready (was *not* Telephoning Tamil)

2002-07-29 Thread Kenneth Whistler
> One that occurs to me might be the Khoisan languages of Africa, > which I believe commonly use "!" (U+0021) for a click sound. > This is almost exactly the same problem you are describing for Tongva. U+01C3 LATIN LETTER RETROFLEX CLICK (General Category Lo) was encoded precisely for this. It

RE: (long) Making orthographies computer-ready (was *not* Telephoning Tamil)

2002-07-29 Thread Addison Phillips [wM]
languages is more a limiter here probably than active engineering work preventing it. Addison > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:02 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: (long) Making orthographies computer-ready (was *not* Telephoning Tamil)

2002-07-29 Thread Peter_Constable
On 07/29/2002 03:56:36 PM "Addison Phillips [wM]" wrote: >Nonetheless, if you glance at the "SpecialCasing" file in Unicode, you will >note that almost without exception the entries are locale driven. The first >stop in creating a new orthography (or computerizing an existing one, perhaps >from

(long) Making orthographies computer-ready (was *not* Telephoning Tamil)

2002-07-29 Thread Addison Phillips [wM]
There are always consequences... ... but I am saying that you could build a locale that would work. Generally speaking, most programming environments do not look at the Unicode character database for the operations in question, or at least, don't look directly that those tables. They use custo