RE: Accented ij ligatures (was: Unicode Public Review Issues update)

2003-07-02 Thread Kent Karlsson
Believe it or not, the IJ and ij digraphs *were* included for compatibility with an 8-bit legacy character set (ISO 6937). 6937 is a multibyte encoding (one or two bytes per character). There are no combining characters at all in 6937, even though there is a common misunderstanding that there

RE: Accented ij ligatures (was: Unicode Public Review Issues update)

2003-07-02 Thread Kent Karlsson
In either cases, the Soft_Dotted property is probably overkill on the existing ij or IJ ligatures (should should have been better There is no point in having a soft-dotted property for the capital letter... named letters and not ligatures) for Dutch. Or is this update needed to document

Re: Accented ij ligatures (was: Unicode Public Review Issues update)

2003-07-02 Thread Doug Ewell
Kent Karlsson kentk at cs dot chalmers dot se wrote: Believe it or not, the IJ and ij digraphs *were* included for compatibility with an 8-bit legacy character set (ISO 6937). 6937 is a multibyte encoding (one or two bytes per character). There are no combining characters at all in 6937,

Re: Accented ij ligatures (was: Unicode Public Review Issues update)

2003-07-01 Thread Philippe Verdy
On Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:55 PM, Kent Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My feeling about the proposed Public Review document should exclude the ij ligature, waiting for the decision about the new dotless-ij ligature approved in the first rounds by UTC and waiting for approval by ISO

Re: Accented ij ligatures (was: Unicode Public Review Issues update)

2003-07-01 Thread Pim Blokland
Michael Everson schreef: I think the answer is, regarding the soft dot property, please leave the ij ligature alone. And I think not. When putting accents on the (which does happen!), the dots must go. Simple as that. Maybe it was a bad idea to include as a character in Unicode at all, but

Re: Accented ij ligatures (was: Unicode Public Review Issues update)

2003-07-01 Thread Philippe Verdy
On Tuesday, July 01, 2003 4:09 PM, Pim Blokland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it was a bad idea to include as a character in Unicode at all, but now it's there, there's no reason to ignore it when refining the rules, to deprecate it practically. No, that was needed for correct Dutch support.

Re: Accented ij ligatures (was: Unicode Public Review Issues update)

2003-07-01 Thread Doug Ewell
Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo dot fr wrote: Maybe it was a bad idea to include as a character in Unicode at all, but now it's there, there's no reason to ignore it when refining the rules, to deprecate it practically. No, that was needed for correct Dutch support. Look at the case

Accented ij ligatures (was: Unicode Public Review Issues update)

2003-06-30 Thread Pim Blokland
Philippe Verdy schreef: Interesting issue for the Latin Small ij Ligature (U+0133): Normally the Soft_Dotted issupposed to make disappear one dot when there's and additional diacritic above, but many applications may keep these two dots above, fitting the diacritic in the middle. This

Re: Accented ij ligatures (was: Unicode Public Review Issues update)

2003-06-30 Thread Philippe Verdy
On Monday, June 30, 2003 1:58 PM, Pim Blokland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philippe Verdy schreef: Interesting issue for the Latin Small ij Ligature (U+0133): Normally the Soft_Dotted issupposed to make disappear one dot when there's and additional diacritic above, but many applications may

Re: Accented ij ligatures (was: Unicode Public Review Issues update)

2003-06-30 Thread Philippe Verdy
On Monday, June 30, 2003 9:13 PM, James H. Cloos Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you want two dots and an acute use ij, U+0308, U+0301: Of course a given fonts diaeresis will often not line up with the stems of its ij, and a custom one should be used instead. Or features and/or ligs as