RE: Devanagari question

2000-11-15 Thread Ayers, Mike
From: Rick McGowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Mike Ayers wrote: The last I knew, computer-savvy Taiwan and Hong Kong were continuing to invent new characters. In the end, the onus is on the computer to support the user. Yes, the computer should support the user, but... The

Re: OT: Devanagari question

2000-11-14 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 08:22:21AM -0800, D.V. Henkel-Wallace wrote: Sadly, it seems unlikely that any furture change or adoption of orthography will use characters not already supported by the then major computer systems. In fact the trend seems to be the other way, viz Spain's changing

Re: OT: Devanagari question

2000-11-14 Thread John Cowan
"D.V. Henkel-Wallace" wrote: For a minority language (which all remaining unwritten languages are) the pressure will be strong to use existing combinations (since they won't constitute a large enough community for people to write special rendering support). OTOH minority languages have

Re: Devanagari question

2000-11-14 Thread Antoine Leca
Mark Davis wrote: The Unicode Standard does define the rendering of such combinations, which is in the absence of any other information to stack outwards. A dumb implementation would simply move the accent outwards if there was in the same position. This will not necessarily produce an

Lakota (was Re: OT: Devanagari question)

2000-11-14 Thread Rick McGowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, there's no corresponding LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N WITH LONG RIGHT LEG, which Lakota needs. To my knowledge, the discussion in September between John Cowan and Curtis Clark didn't terminate with any actual proposal, and I'm not clear on whether the above

RE: Devanagari question

2000-11-14 Thread Ayers, Mike
From: D.V. Henkel-Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 06:30 2000-11-14 -0800, Marco Cimarosti wrote: But my point was: not even Mr. Ethnologue himself knows exactly *which* combinations are meaningful, in all orthographic system. And, clearly, no one can figure out which combinations

RE: Devanagari question

2000-11-14 Thread Rick McGowan
Mike Ayers wrote: The last I knew, computer-savvy Taiwan and Hong Kong were continuing to invent new characters. In the end, the onus is on the computer to support the user. Yes, the computer should support the user, but... The invention of new characters to serve multitudes is OK, and

RE: Devanagari question

2000-11-14 Thread Thomas Chan
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Rick McGowan wrote: Mike Ayers wrote: The last I knew, computer-savvy Taiwan and Hong Kong were continuing to invent new characters. In the end, the onus is on the computer to support the user. Yes, the computer should support the user, but... The invention of new

RE: Devanagari question

2000-11-13 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Antoine Leca wrote: My understanding is that there are a number of similar cases, which are not officially prohibited (AFAIK), but does not carry any sense. For example, how about digits followed by accents (as combining marks)? Or the kana voicing/voiceless combining marks, when they

Re: Devanagari question

2000-11-13 Thread Mark Davis
Monday, November 13, 2000 10:11 Subject: Re: Devanagari question Marco Cimarosti wrote: Antoine Leca wrote: My understanding is that there are a number of similar cases, which are not officially prohibited (AFAIK), but does not carry any sense. I think that the original idea beh

Devanagari question

2000-11-09 Thread James E. Agenbroad
Thursday, November 8, 2000 After sending a comment on the Ra(sup) + independent vowel discussion two more general Devanagari questions occurred to me: 1. Is a halant/virama ever valid following other than a consonant (or consonant and nukta)? My

Re: Devanagari question

2000-11-09 Thread Rick McGowan
1. Is a halant/virama ever valid following other than a consonant (or consonant and nukta)? Legal? In the sense of "any string is legal", yes; as is anything else. The implementation question to answer is whether it's useful or renderable, and if so, how. The independent vowel followed by

Re: Devanagari question

2000-11-09 Thread James E. Agenbroad
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Rick McGowan wrote: 1. Is a halant/virama ever valid following other than a consonant (or consonant and nukta)? Legal? In the sense of "any string is legal", yes; as is anything else. The implementation question to answer is whether it's useful or renderable, and