Re: Name of Greek block (was: Re: Greek tonos and oxia)

2004-07-01 Thread Peter Kirk
On 30/06/2004 16:35, Kenneth Whistler wrote: the versions in the main Greek and Coptic block (or has it been officially renamed just Greek?) No, the block name won't be changed, in part because changing block names is another destabilization in the standard that really serves nobody well,

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-07-01 Thread Peter Kirk
On 30/06/2004 17:49, John Cowan wrote: Peter Kirk scripsit: Since the characters are in fact exactly equivalent, you can use whichever you wish, as long as you are aware that some processes may change one to the other. They should be rendered identically. True. But the original

Re: Name of Greek block (was: Re: Greek tonos and oxia)

2004-07-01 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 01:21 AM 7/1/2004, Peter Kirk wrote: On 30/06/2004 16:35, Kenneth Whistler wrote: the versions in the main Greek and Coptic block (or has it been officially renamed just Greek?) No, the block name won't be changed, in part because changing block names is another destabilization in the

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-07-01 Thread busmanus
John Cowan wrote: Michael Everson scripsit: At 14:11 -0400 2004-06-30, John Cowan wrote: But the X WITH ACUTE characters there are exactly equivalent to the X WITH TONOS characters in the main Greek block, and the ones in the main Greek block are in fact preferred. How can you tell they are

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-07-01 Thread busmanus
Peter Kirk wrote: On 30/06/2004 11:18, busmanus wrote: Peter Kirk wrote: If you prefer to use precomposed characters I need to use them at the moment, because my word processor does not support the trickier aspects of rendering combined glyphs (e.g. making use of the corner points, etc.). I can't

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-07-01 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 03:31 PM 7/1/2004, busmanus wrote: Can you give a link to these normalization rules? Just check the unicode home page. A./

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread Peter Kirk
On 29/06/2004 16:07, busmanus wrote: I have a (hopefully) short question about polytonic Greek support. Does anyone know what the idea was behind encoding Greek vowel+acute combinations (without apirates, etc.) twice: first in the Basic Greek section as vowel+tonos, for the second time in the

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread busmanus
Peter Kirk wrote: If you prefer to use precomposed characters I need to use them at the moment, because my word processor does not support the trickier aspects of rendering combined glyphs (e.g. making use of the corner points, etc.). I can't even make it use a precomposed ligature for a

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread John Cowan
Peter Kirk scripsit: If you prefer to use precomposed characters (rather than separate diacritics as Ken suggested) or need to do so to meet W3C recommendations, you should use the ones in the Extended Greek section, which allow for a distinction between acute and grave accents which is

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread Michael Everson
At 14:11 -0400 2004-06-30, John Cowan wrote: But the X WITH ACUTE characters there are exactly equivalent to the X WITH TONOS characters in the main Greek block, and the ones in the main Greek block are in fact preferred. How can you tell they are preferred, John? -- Michael Everson * * Everson

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread John Cowan
Michael Everson scripsit: At 14:11 -0400 2004-06-30, John Cowan wrote: But the X WITH ACUTE characters there are exactly equivalent to the X WITH TONOS characters in the main Greek block, and the ones in the main Greek block are in fact preferred. How can you tell they are preferred,

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread Peter Kirk
On 30/06/2004 11:11, John Cowan wrote: Peter Kirk scripsit: If you prefer to use precomposed characters (rather than separate diacritics as Ken suggested) or need to do so to meet W3C recommendations, you should use the ones in the Extended Greek section, which allow for a distinction

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread Peter Kirk
On 30/06/2004 11:18, busmanus wrote: Peter Kirk wrote: If you prefer to use precomposed characters I need to use them at the moment, because my word processor does not support the trickier aspects of rendering combined glyphs (e.g. making use of the corner points, etc.). I can't even make it use

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread Rick McGowan
See also the FAQ on Greek: http://www.unicode.org/faq/greek.html

Name of Greek block (was: Re: Greek tonos and oxia)

2004-06-30 Thread Kenneth Whistler
the versions in the main Greek and Coptic block (or has it been officially renamed just Greek?) No, the block name won't be changed, in part because changing block names is another destabilization in the standard that really serves nobody well, but mostly because the existing 14 Coptic letters

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread John Cowan
Peter Kirk scripsit: Since the characters are in fact exactly equivalent, you can use whichever you wish, as long as you are aware that some processes may change one to the other. They should be rendered identically. True. But the original question was Which are preferred, and there is a

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-29 Thread Kenneth Whistler
I have a (hopefully) short question about polytonic Greek support. Does anyone know what the idea was behind encoding Greek vowel+acute combinations (without apirates, etc.) twice: first in the Basic Greek section as vowel+tonos, for the second time in the Extended Greek section as