Re: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-10-01 Thread John Cowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit: > First they'd want numeric value properties added to the Hebrew and > Greek letters, then when they came to do the same for the Latin letters > the ensuing flamewar would bring the whole effort to a standstill. Numeric values for Hebrew, Greek, and Cyrillic make a lot

RE: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-10-01 Thread Jill Ramonsky
Yeah, but dude, wasting time on stupid ideas goes with the territory if you happen to be a creative genius. Some of your ideas won't work. Others will be magnificent. I'd put good money on the notion that if Newton had been prevented from pursuing astrology or numerology, this restriction would

Re: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-10-01 Thread jon
> > At 11:15 AM 9/30/03 -0400, John Cowan wrote: > >> Isaac Newton spent an unconscionable amount > >> of time, by our standards, messing about with astrology and > numerology > > > > One of the aspects of character encoding and standardization that > > seems to have an unholy fascination for peop

Re: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-09-30 Thread John Jenkins
On 2003年9月30日, at 下午12:01, Asmus Freytag wrote: At 11:15 AM 9/30/03 -0400, John Cowan wrote: Isaac Newton spent an unconscionable amount of time, by our standards, messing about with astrology and numerology One of the aspects of character encoding and standardization that seems to have an unholy

Re: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-09-30 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 11:15 AM 9/30/03 -0400, John Cowan wrote: Isaac Newton spent an unconscionable amount of time, by our standards, messing about with astrology and numerology One of the aspects of character encoding and standardization that seems to have an unholy fascination for people is its numerical aspect.

Re: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-09-30 Thread John Cowan
Jill Ramonsky scripsit: > Ludvig, this Pastoral Symphony of yours all seems to me like something > of a pointless excercise. > And Albert, this "Theory of Relativity" of yours all seems to me like > something of a pointless excercise. > > Never discourage someone else's creativity. The whole p

RE: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-09-30 Thread Jill Ramonsky
- > From: Rick McGowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 5:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Internal Representation of Unicode > > This all seems to me like something of a pointless excercise.

Re: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-09-26 Thread Peter_Constable
James Kass wrote on 09/26/2003 12:03:42 AM: > Peter Constable (IIRC) reported on this list a while ago that there was > a Latin-based writing system used for an indigenous South American > language which stacks up to three marks above. Good memory, James! The language is Ticuna. Peter

Re: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-09-26 Thread Rick McGowan
myrkraverk...sourceforge wrote: > In a plain text environment, there is often a need to encode more than > just the plain character. ... > Since I'm using 64 bits, I call it Excessive Memory Usage Encoding, or > EMUE. ... > I thought of dividing the 64 bit code space into 32 variably wide

RE: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-09-26 Thread Marco Cimarosti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a plain text environment, there is often a need to encode more than > just the plain character. A console, or terminal emulator, is such an > environment. Therefore I propose the following as a technical report > for internal encoding of unicode characters; with one

Re: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-09-26 Thread Peter Kirk
On 25/09/2003 20:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, John Cowan writes: > The problem is that multiple accents above are quite common -- Vietnamese > depends on them heavily. There may also be multiple accents below, > for all I know. That does not have to be a problem, as long as there are no more

Re: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-09-26 Thread jameskass
. Jóhann Gunnar Óskarsson wrote, > That does not have to be a problem, as long as there are no more than > 255 accents and combinations of them. As for vietnamese, I just don't > know how many there are, or how many characters they use. The Combining Diacritical Marks range of Unicode 4.0 lists

Re: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-09-25 Thread Doug Ewell
Johann wrote: > That does not have to be a problem, as long as there are no more than > 255 accents and combinations of them. As for vietnamese, I just don't > know how many there are, or how many characters they use. You'll need UTF-8 and a fairly comprehensive font to read the following. For

Re: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-09-25 Thread myrkraverk
Hi, John Cowan writes: > The problem is that multiple accents above are quite common -- Vietnamese > depends on them heavily. There may also be multiple accents below, > for all I know. That does not have to be a problem, as long as there are no more than 255 accents and combinations of them.

Re: Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-09-25 Thread John Cowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit: > All of these fields are actually implementation defined, with just one > rule for char: don't include characters that can be made with > combinations, that's what the accent fields are for. This allows for > 255 upper and lower accents which should be enough -- for n

Internal Representation of Unicode

2003-09-25 Thread myrkraverk
Hi, In a plain text environment, there is often a need to encode more than just the plain character. A console, or terminal emulator, is such an environment. Therefore I propose the following as a technical report for internal encoding of unicode characters; with one goal in mind: character equa