New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-09-28 Thread tom
Readers of this list may be interested in efforts to set up an upper-level internet name registry (XNS) based on XML 1.0, Unicode 2.0, and Java 1.2, which intends to allow names composed with a large subset of Unicode 2.0 characters. Info is at Below are details of the name

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-09-28 Thread Hart, Edwin F.
Thanks for providing the information. I have a question: Does the algorithm normalize character strings so that LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE is equivalent to LATIN SMALL LETTER E followed by a COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT? Ed Hart Edwin F. Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Johns Hopkins University A

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-09-28 Thread Carl W. Brown
implementing it for all Unicode characters that have case. Carl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:43 AM To: Unicode List Subject: New Name Registry Using Unicode Readers of this list may be interested in efforts to set up

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-09-29 Thread Marco . Cimarosti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In XNS 1.0, XNS personal, business, and general names all > follow the same normalization rules: These normalization rules only work for ASCII, so why bother using Unicode? After all, they can all keep on using ASCII (cmp. http://www.trigeminal.com/samples/provincial.

Re: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-09-29 Thread Antoine Leca
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > For purposes of name registration uniqueness, the only significant > characters are numbers and letter as defined by the Java isLetterOrDigit > function returning TRUE. This function determines if a character is a > letter or digit according to the Unicode 2.0 standar

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-09-29 Thread Marco . Cimarosti
Antoine Leca wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > For purposes of name registration uniqueness, the only significant > > characters are numbers and letter as defined by the Java > isLetterOrDigit > > function returning TRUE. This function determines if a > character is a > > letter or digit acc

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-09-29 Thread Hart, Edwin F.
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:49 To: Hart, Edwin F. Subject: RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode >Thanks for providing the information. > >I have a question: > >Does the algorithm normalize character strings so that > >LATIN SMAL

Re: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-09-29 Thread J%ORG KNAPPEN
There is another serious problem: Characters sharing the same glyph, but being different. In Russia, users of TeX got annoyed when they got the error message unknown command sequence when they had typed in \TeX. It is known if and only if all three letters are latin. There are 8 possible spellin

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-09-29 Thread tom
Just to clarify, I have no connection with the XNS project (other than as a user), but posted the info about it as of possible interest to listees as an interesting effort to use the Unicode Standard in a limited operational way over the internet. The people doing this are www.xns.org and www.one

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-09-29 Thread Yves Arrouye
> The people doing this are www.xns.org and www.onename.com. > One needs to > visit their sites and read their "white papers" to get a full > picture of > what the purpose is and how they are using the standards. Note that there are other naming initiatives, including the one driven by my compa

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-02 Thread Carl W. Brown
Marco, >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 1:26 AM >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> In XNS 1.0, XNS personal, business, and general names all >> follow the same normalization rules: >These normalization rules only work for ASCII, so why bother using

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-02 Thread Marco . Cimarosti
Hi, Carl. (You replied privately; was this intentional? If not, you can resend it to the list, and I will re-send this one). > >A better choice, IMHO, would be to normalize by *decomposition*. In this > >way, the problem above would be addressed by rule 3 below. > I think you have a very good p

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-02 Thread Marco . Cimarosti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Just to clarify, I have no connection with the XNS project > (other than as a > user), but posted the info about it as of possible interest > [...] I am certainly one of those who made the impression of addressing Tom himself, as if he was the author of the proposal.

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-02 Thread Carl W. Brown
Marco, I sent them an email and invited them to join the discussion. Carl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 6:59 AM To: Unicode List Subject: RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Just

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-02 Thread Carl W. Brown
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 6:53 AM To: Unicode List Subject: RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode Hi, Carl. (You replied privately; was this intentional? If not, you can resend it to the list, and I will re-send

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-02 Thread Doug Ewell
Marco Cimarosti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But the last step should go a little bit forward than this: all > character that "look the same" must be unified, for obvious reason. > It would be a suicide, for instance, to allow Cyrillic letters like > a, B, c, e, H, i, j, K, M, n, o, p, s, T, u, x

Re: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-02 Thread Mark Davis
in registration. you can register two distinct names "bit" and "bit" The informal feedback I had gotten was that (given only these options!) Turks would prefer (A) over (B). If people canvas their Turkish collegues, that would be more information. - Original Message

Re: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-02 Thread Antoine Leca
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > For purposes of name registration uniqueness, the only significant > characters are numbers and letter as defined by the Java isLetterOrDigit > function returning TRUE. This function determines if a character is a > letter or digit according to the Unicode 2.0 standar

Re: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-03 Thread Michael Everson
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RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-04 Thread Marco . Cimarosti
Doug Ewell wrote: > Marco Cimarosti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > a, B, c, e, H, i, j, K, M, n, o, p, s, T, u, x, or y to be > [...] > > This is a potential can of worms, because "look the same" is not a > Boolean property for glyphs. What about U+0076 LATIN SMALL LETTER V > and U+03BD

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-04 Thread Marco . Cimarosti
Carl W. Brown wrote: > It would certainly seem that the optimal solution would be to > carry the locale. Not at all, and for a good reasons: I need that, whenever and wherever I type in a certain string, I reach the same web site. Scenario: Imagine that I am a customer of Äöü, a (fictionary) I

Re: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-04 Thread David Starner
On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 05:04:39AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Now imagine that someone registers a domain "www.äöü.com" and built on it a > perfect replica of www.aou.com, with the sole purpose of grabbing passwords > from Italian turists in Scandinavia, to make their bank accounts much > l

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-04 Thread Carl W. Brown
To all: A have invited Drummond Reed of XNSORG to join the Unicode discussion. I forwarded the previous messages to him so that he could get caught up with this thread. I hope I did not miss any. (Someone needs to fix the message archives.) We can now give Mr. reed a warm welcome and let Tom

RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-04 Thread Carl W. Brown
l .it names would follow the Italian rules. This should avoid most of the problems discussed so far. Carl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 6:05 AM To: Unicode List Subject: RE: New Name Registry Using Unicode Carl W.