On 06/06/2002 12:45:15 AM "Maurice Bauhahn" wrote:
>In Khmer one of the problems visual order brings up for computer
>implementations is the large variety of character orders this could
involve.
>There are two-glyph vowels with pre and post consonant placement,
one-glyph
>vowels which preceed, a
When we looked into this at the Cambodian Ministry of Education, Youth and
Sport, it was decided that Khmer handwriting order should {largely} follow
phonetic order. Of course typewriters had to follow visual-order. Most
computer implementations previously were not able to handle phonetic order
Hello,
I'm wondering about the practice of using visual-order vs phonetic-order
in Indic writing on typewriter vs computer vs handwritten. Are they
all the same?
I also heard that there are two input-method styles for Indic,
visual-order and phonetic-order. Is it true? And what is more po
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Marco Cimarosti wrote:
> I also take the occasion to suggest a new field that could be very useful:
> the frequency of usage of each character. This information may be derived
> from good on-line sources. E.g., for Chinese, from Chi-Ho Tsai's research
> (http://www.geocities.c
dictionary-like data
> - [...]
> - A phonetic grouping for the character"
>
> The phonetic grouping seems to be an integer number, and I wonder:
>
> - What does this information mean?
>
> - Why some characters don't have it? Is it just missing or it does not
> apply
&g
In the on-line UniHan database (http://www.unicode.org/charts/unihan.html) I
see a field that I have never seen before:
"- Other useful dictionary-like data
- [...]
- A phonetic grouping for the character"
The phonetic groupin
Ar 23:05 -0800 2000-12-17, scríobh Richard Cook:
>And as for the consonant symbols, why stop with t, d, n, l, c, z? Why
>not include the rest of the curly-tail and other symbols in the
>following chart:
>
>http://stedt.berkeley.edu/pdf/curly-tail-table3.pdf
>
>there are a few other bits of data y
"J%ORG KNAPPEN" wrote:
>
> The curly-tail consonants t, d, n, l, c, z are also included in the
> TeX IPA (tipa fonts). The documentation of those fonts is available
> on
>
> ftp://ftp.dante.de/texarchive/fonts/tipa/tipaman.ps.gz
>
> --J"org Knappen
Hi J"org,
It looks as if you sent the wrong u
The curly-tail consonants t, d, n, l, c, z are also included in the
TeX IPA (tipa fonts). The documentation of those fonts is available
on
ftp://ftp.dante.de/texarchive/fonts/tipa/tipaman.ps.gz
--J"org Knappen
This table has undergone some further revision:
http://stedt.berkeley.edu/pdf/curly-tail-table3.pdf
Please note in the center of the table:
U+0291/U+0293 and U+0255/U+0286
These 4 may in fact be 2 pairs of functional equivalents (synographs),
pointing to the same place of articulation. Accordi
With regard to the curly-tail character set, here's a link to an
IPA-style chart of this I made:
http://stedt.berkeley.edu/pdf/curly-tail-table2.pdf
The curly-tail series is in red. As always, comments, suggestions and
corrections are welcome.
Richard S.
Robert Lloyd Wheelock wrote:
> >From: JÖRG KNAPPEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Unicode List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Information about curly-tailed phonetic letters
> >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 01:33:05 -0800
>From: JÖRG KNAPPEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Unicode List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Information about curly-tailed phonetic letters
>Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 01:33:05 -0800 (GMT-0800)
>
>The curly-tail consonants t, d, n
eting of WG2 I'd collected a number of
> books on Yi, in which these characters occur. I think your arguments about
> the productivity of the curl in the IPA are spot on.
Michael,
Yes, transcription of Yi (Lolo) and other Lolo-ish and Lolo-Burmese
languages is one of the things I
Ar 13:10 -0800 2000-11-23, scríobh Richard Cook:
>Hi everyone,
>This paper, brought to your attention last June
>
>http://stedt.berkeley.edu/pdf/curly-tailed-tdnlcz.pdf
>http://stedt.berkeley.edu/pdf/TranscriptionTable-WUZongji.jpg
>
>has been updated recently. Still working on getting the formal
"J%ORG KNAPPEN" wrote:
>
> The curly-tail consonants t, d, n, l, c, z are also included in the
> TeX IPA (tipa fonts). The documentation of those fonts is available
> on
>
> ftp://ftp.dante.de/texarchive/fonts/tipa/tipaman.ps.gz
>
> --J"org Knappen
Thanks. The URL should have a hyphen in it:
The curly-tail consonants t, d, n, l, c, z are also included in the
TeX IPA (tipa fonts). The documentation of those fonts is available
on
ftp://ftp.dante.de/texarchive/fonts/tipa/tipaman.ps.gz
--J"org Knappen
suggestions.
Best,
Richard
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:48:09 -0800 (GMT-0800)
Kenneth Whistler wrote:
>
> Richard S. Cook, of the STEDT Project at the University
> of California, Berkeley, passes on the following URL's, which
> contain documentation regarding the use of curl
Exactly what constitutes a phonetic sound, besides being made by a human
being? I mean, clapping isn't phonetic, is it?
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