Pictograms (was: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views)

2000-06-13 Thread Otto Stolz
Am 2000-06-13 um 09:28 h (GMT-0800) hat J. Schneider geschrieben: > Pictograms are problematic because they are often culturally based. ... > the icon looked like an analog clock, sort of. [...] my son > didn't make the connection until I explained it to him. What about the even more old-fashione

Pictograms (was: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views)

2000-06-14 Thread Otto Stolz
Am 2000-06-13 um 11:57:59 (GMT-0800) hat Alain geschrieben: > the flash option -- which most will like to use, show... a flash > pictogram (electric storm flash shape won't change overnight in nature, > I guess) This is another example of the pitfall I tried to warn of: it is not enough that the

Re: Pictograms (was: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views)

2000-06-13 Thread Alain
À 10:30 2000-06-13 -0800, Otto Stolz a écrit: It does also require careful deliberation on the designers part to avoid all sorts of cultural bias. If this cannot be avoided, you will end up with different pictograms for the various cultures -- and you are back to square one, as you will have to pr

RE: Pictograms (was: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views)

2000-06-14 Thread Marco . Cimarosti
Otto Stolz wrote (about using a flash icon for the flashlight function on a camera): > I found two possible situations in which this would not work: > - a particular culture may use another metaphor, or a term not based > on any metaphor, for the notion you are trying to convey, > - or the metap

Re: Pictograms (was: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views)

2000-06-14 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 11:34 AM 06/13/2000 -0800, Alain wrote: >[Alain] In my example of this morning, it was not mainly because French >was in 5th position that I was the most upset, it is because I was in a >hurry -- that was last Tuesday -- and that I had to wait for the vocal >explanations for many minutes wh

Re: Pictograms (was: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: antediluvian views)

2000-06-14 Thread Alain
À 13:59 2000-06-14 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg a écrit: At 11:34 AM 06/13/2000 -0800, Alain wrote: [Alain]  In my example of this morning, it was not mainly because French was in 5th position that I was the most upset, it is because I was in a hurry -- that was last Tuesday -- and that I had to wai