RE: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-28 Thread Suzanne M. Topping
-Original Message- From: Youtie Effaight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Unicode now has a serious competitor. Please read about it at www.bytext.org. Everyone on this list should find it extremely interesting. Goll dang! Just what ah've bin waitin' fer! Code points is gettin' way

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-28 Thread Stefan Persson
--- Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: At 08:41 -0800 2002-01-27, James Kass wrote: Seriously, the section in the bytext file about emoticons was most enjoyable. Do people exchange information using emoticons? Yes, but these are representable in plain text by Unicode now.

RE: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-28 Thread Yves Arrouye
Well, I've seen cases where chat engines have converted ASCII into emoticon pictures at the wrong places... And sometimes you can't turn them off. Grumble. I couldn't give out sample code in MSIM using foo(c) for a function call w/o getting a cup of coffee after foo! YA

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-27 Thread Michael Everson
At 17:54 -0500 2002-01-26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my favorite parts of Bytext was the section on Emoticons. Certainly, one thing that a serious competitor to Unicode must have is a rich set of emoticons as single characters. I've always felt the UTC was badly out of touch with the

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-27 Thread James Kass
Michael Everson wrote, MISTER YUCK, actually, should be added to Unicode. Isn't it used on some poisonous cleaning products to warn children? If so, perhaps it is a glyph variant of skull and crossbones at U+2620 (☠). Best regards, James Kass.

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-27 Thread Michael Everson
At 06:56 -0800 2002-01-27, James Kass wrote: MISTER YUCK, actually, should be added to Unicode. Isn't it used on some poisonous cleaning products to warn children? If so, perhaps it is a glyph variant of skull and crossbones at U+2620 (’òÝ). I don't think it is. Indeed it was introduced

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-27 Thread James Kass
Michael Everson wrote, (MISTER YUCK) If so, perhaps it is a glyph variant of skull and crossbones at U+2620 ([Gratuitous UTF-8 Skull and Crossbones]). I don't think it is. Indeed it was introduced precisely because toddlers don't understand the skull and crossbones. They may both

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-27 Thread Patrick Andries
James Kass wrote: Seriously, the section in the bytext file about emoticons was most enjoyable. Do people exchange information using emoticons? MISTER YUCK: graphic or symbol? Do people use exclamation marks to communicate ;-) P. Andries

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-27 Thread Michael Everson
At 08:41 -0800 2002-01-27, James Kass wrote: Seriously, the section in the bytext file about emoticons was most enjoyable. Do people exchange information using emoticons? Yes, but these are representable in plain text by Unicode now. ASCII! MISTER YUCK: graphic or symbol? Symbol. --

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-27 Thread Curtis Clark
At 06:56 AM 1/27/02, James Kass wrote: If so, perhaps it is a glyph variant of skull and crossbones at U+2620 (☠). cheek contents=tongue amount=50% I would argue against unification: the skull and crossed bones has additional meanings beyond poison. Although the vision of Disney's Pirates

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-27 Thread James Kass
Michael Everson wrote, ... graphic or symbol? Symbol. -- Because it signifies something specific while a graphic would be subject to random interpretations. Curtis Clark wrote, I would argue against unification: the skull and crossed bones has additional meanings beyond poison.

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-26 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2002-01-26 5:46:37 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm surprised you all went for it. Well, I was curious, sort of like a passing motorist who slows down to see the aftermath of a collision. The same thing happened when someone announced that TRON was

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-25 Thread Youtie Effaight
Unicode now has a serious competitor. Please read about it at www.bytext.org. Everyone on this list should find it extremely interesting. Goll dang! Just what ah've bin waitin' fer! Code points is gettin' way too expensive in Unicode, so I sure hope bytext is sellin' 'em cheaper. Yer ol' pal,

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-25 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From Bernard's personal site: There are so many people smarter than me Indeed. But few who are so presumptuous to believe that they are a serious competitor on such a basis? Though I can offer you a deal on personalized tutorials to help you with your misconceptions on Unicode, though it may

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-25 Thread David Starner
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 08:33:15PM -0800, Bernard Miller wrote: Unicode now has a serious competitor. Please read about it at www.bytext.org. Everyone on this list should find it extremely interesting. Let's see. Bytext has no corporate supporters, nor is it supported by any standards

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-25 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2002-01-25 20:45:46 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unicode now has a serious competitor. Please read about it at www.bytext.org. Everyone on this list should find it extremely interesting. I just downloaded the PDF file and spent about 10 minutes

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-25 Thread John Hudson
So, is there a script -- something along the lines of the dialectizer recently mentioned here -- that automatically generates 'Competitor to Unicode' websites? I wonder, because they all make the same set of claims, display the same confusion about or misrepresentation of Unicode, and offer

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-25 Thread Sean M. Burke
At 08:33 PM 2002-01-25 -0800, Bernard Miller wrote: Hello Unicode list members, Unicode now has a serious competitor. Please read about it at www.bytext.org. Everyone on this list should find it extremely interesting. Juvenal said It is hard NOT to write satire. But in future I suggest you

Re: POSITIVELY MUST READ! Bytext is here!

2002-01-25 Thread Rick McGowan
Unicode now has a serious competitor. Kllhk!! Kllhk!! Kllhk! Whoa! Almost choked on my tofu burger! Oh dewd, you have it so, like, all wrong... Universal character encoding isn't about Competition and Marketing, it's about everybody doin' it in the road, all together like, in love, peace,