At 18:56 -0700 2002-07-10, James Kass wrote:
>Point 2 concerns the obliterated glyph glyph. Quoting from the
>Everson proposal for Egyptian hieroglyphics (N1944.PDF):
>"In general, these alternate formatting characters will be required also
>for representation of other scripts, such as Maya Hier
Michael Everson wrote (in reply to Marco Cimarosti),
> >IMHO, the two characters in points 1 and 2 absolutely needed. Academic works
> >which consider them as part of the script could not be encoded without them,
> >while academic works which don't need them are not disturbed by their
> >existen
John Cowan wrote:
> Marco Cimarosti scripsit:
>
> > (BTW, what's the English for "trattino obliquo"!?)
>
> "Slanted hyphen". Sometimes used in dictionaries to show
> syllable breaks
> in lieu of the MIDDLE DOT. There does not seem to be a Unicode
> character for it, though -- at least, I sear
At 20:48 -0400 2002-07-08, John Cowan wrote:
>Michael Everson scripsit:
>> My point being that though Beijing and Hong Kong newspaper headlines
>> might present LTR or RTL directionality without mirroring, this
>> practice is rare or indeed unknown in Europe at 1700 BCE.
>
>In any event, the so
Marco Cimarosti scripsit:
> (BTW, what's the English for "trattino obliquo"!?)
"Slanted hyphen". Sometimes used in dictionaries to show syllable breaks
in lieu of the MIDDLE DOT. There does not seem to be a Unicode
character for it, though -- at least, I searched NameList in vain.
--
John Co
> OK, I have the English translation of it. But you want the character.
> You do the work. Please look and tell me by cell number and character
> (A-I-22, A-IV-1, B-VI-45) where they are actually applied. Be
> comprehensive. Thanks.
OK, here is the info I have.
As we now have an encodi
At 20:48 -0400 2002-07-08, John Cowan wrote:
>Michael Everson scripsit:
>
>> My point being that though Beijing and Hong Kong newspaper headlines
>> might present LTR or RTL directionality without mirroring, this
>> practice is rare or indeed unknown in Europe at 1700 BCE.
>
>In any event, the
At 20:17 -0700 2002-07-08, Doug Ewell wrote:
>Michael Everson wrote:
>
> > Say that we found another Phaistos document with the same string in
> > it, and were able to decipher Phaistos, and found that the string
> > matched in meaning and syntax to what's on the disk. Then we would
> > have
Michael Everson wrote:
> You guys are not thinking things through.
Normally I don't. This is an exceptional case.
> Firstly the fact that the
> only document we have was made with stamps rather than drawn by hand
> means nothing.
It means nothing, nor the contrary of nothing. Perhaps the same
Michael,
> Ken. Thanks for your response.
Hmm. I think I detect the invisible ironic smiley there.
Thanks for broadcasting my private, poke-in-the-ribs response
to you and Marco back to the public list. ;-)
> As I said, the original might (assuming a syllabic structure and
> assigning random
Michael Everson wrote:
> Say that we found another Phaistos document with the same string in
> it, and were able to decipher Phaistos, and found that the string
> matched in meaning and syntax to what's on the disk. Then we would
> have a superfluous character encoded.
You mean like U+0340 and
At 15:51 -0700 2002-07-08, Asmus Freytag wrote:
>At 02:43 PM 7/8/02 +0100, Michael Everson wrote:
>>Godart says "The last sign of set A:VIII was not deleted but broke
>>off with a sliver of clay. Bearing mind the space and outline of
>>the gap, which seems to roughtly follow the outline of the b
Ken. Thanks for your response.
> > Now let us say I wish to represent this text LTR, as I do. Well if I
>> reverse the presentation order without I get PLUMED-HEAD SHIELD CLUB
>> PEDESTRIAN BOOMERANG -- but if I don't reverse the glyphs, than
>> plumed-head is still facing to the right, as is
At 02:43 PM 7/8/02 +0100, Michael Everson wrote:
>Godart says "The last sign of set A:VIII was not deleted but broke off
>with a sliver of clay. Bearing mind the space and outline of the gap,
>which seems to roughtly follow the outline of the broken sign, it seems
>that the most plausible ident
You guys are not thinking things through. Firstly the fact that the
only document we have was made with stamps rather than drawn by hand
means nothing. Chinese can be written with a brush, a pen, a chisel,
or it can be impressed into wax with a seal.
You have to look at the structure of the sc
Marco recently said:
> > >5. I find that mirroring the signs as you did in your font is an
> > >unhistorical. The whole corpus is right-to-left, and the
> > fact that the signs
> > >where impressed with types makes it impossible that the
> > signs could have
> > >been reversed. In academic book
Michael Everson wrote:
> How much more imprudent is it to encode it as a unique character when
> nothing is known about it? :-)
:-)
> >E.g. would you dare to unify it with U+0316 (COMBINING GRAVE
> ACCENT BELOW)
> >without knowing whether it is a stress mark, a tone mark, a
> cantillation
> >
At 17:40 +0200 2002-07-08, Marco Cimarosti wrote:
>Michael Everson wrote:
>> >1. Your lacks an important sign, which I would call "PHAISTOS
>> >COMBINING LINE BELOW". [...]
>>
>> Um, can't something from General Punctuation be used, in the absence
>> of knowing more about this "character"?
>
>
Michael Everson wrote:
> >1. Your lacks an important sign, which I would call "PHAISTOS
> >COMBINING LINE BELOW". [...]
>
> Um, can't something from General Punctuation be used, in the absence
> of knowing more about this "character"?
It seems very imprudent, considering that nothing is known a
At 14:11 +0200 2002-07-08, Marco Cimarosti wrote:
>Michael Everson wrote:
>> A Unicode-enabled font based on the ConScript encoding and a test
>> page containing the entire Phaistos corpus can be found at
>> http://www.evertype.com/standards/csur/phaistos-sample.html.
>
>I have a few notes abou
Michael Everson wrote:
> A Unicode-enabled font based on the ConScript encoding and a test
> page containing the entire Phaistos corpus can be found at
> http://www.evertype.com/standards/csur/phaistos-sample.html.
I have a few notes about the repertoire:
1. Your lacks an important sig
At 23:02 -0400 2002-07-05, Jungshik Shin wrote:
>RTFS (Read the fine standard ) :-).
As if. CSS is about the most confusing thing I've ever seen. There is
only so much time in the day.
>
>.phaistos { font-family : "Everson Mono Phaistos", EversonMonoPhaistos}
>
>
>...
I did it this wa
Those desiring to "compose" strings of UTF-8 Phaistos for copy/pasting into
other applications may find it convenient to use the Phaistos screen
keyboard at
http://homepage.mac.com/thgewecke/phaistoskb.html
Of course the Everson font must be installed. On Mac OS X it seems only to
work with Omn
On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Michael Everson wrote:
> At 21:37 -0400 2002-07-05, Jungshik Shin wrote:
>
> > Why don't you use css2 to specify font-family?
>
> Because while I use as CSS for my website in general, I am not sure
> how to specify a style for an individual document.
RTFS (Read the fine st
Michael Everson scripsit:
> Because while I use as CSS for my website in general, I am not sure
> how to specify a style for an individual document.
You can plant the CSS between and tags within the document.
> Where can I find that?
Download Mozilla 1.0 from
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozi
At 21:37 -0400 2002-07-05, Jungshik Shin wrote:
> Why don't you use css2 to specify font-family?
Because while I use as CSS for my website in general, I am not sure
how to specify a style for an individual document.
> > but it had no effect on the OS X browsers which failed for me earlier.
On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Michael Everson wrote:
> At 15:58 -0700 2002-07-05, Rick Cameron wrote:
> >Why don't you specify the font in the HTML?
> Well, I added in a tag (even though it's deprecated in HTML 4.0)
Why don't you use css2 to specify font-family?
> but it had no effect on the OS X br
At 17:07 -0700 2002-07-05, Ben Monroe wrote:
>I played around with the settings for about 30 minutes or so earlier with no
>results. Then, I tried again since you said you added line.
>Side A appeared just fine. However, "Side B" and "The signs in order of
>their classifications (01-45) plus the
At 15:58 -0700 2002-07-05, Rick Cameron wrote:
>It works in IE 6.0 on Windows XP, if, in IE options, I set the font for
>'Latin-based' scripts to Everson Mono Phaistos.
>
>Why don't you specify the font in the HTML?
Well, I added in a tag (even though it's deprecated in HTML 4.0)
but it had no
It works in IE 6.0 on Windows XP, if, in IE options, I set the font for
'Latin-based' scripts to Everson Mono Phaistos.
Why don't you specify the font in the HTML?
- rick
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At 09:00 pm +0100 2002-07-05, Michael Everson wrote:
>A Unicode-enabled font based on the ConScript encoding and a test
>page containing the entire Phaistos corpus can be found at
>http://www.evertype.com/standards/csur/phaistos-sample.html.
>
>The font works under OS X, anyway. It is a .ttf fil
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