Peter Constable replied to Shriramana
Sharma :
Can you clarify what "all kinds of problems" you foresee?
Sure: People find a font that isn’t a truly functional, Unicode-
conformant font for script X and…
- They try using it, find it doesn’t display text as expected, and
conclude that Unicod
Tom Gewecke wondered:
> it seems that you would
> need permission to copy the glyph. I wonder if that is necessary.
To follow on from Peter Constable's response, it comes down to
the actual scenario at hand and precisely what one means by
"copy the glyph".
Scenario 1
I want to use an example
use content.
Peter
-Original Message-
From: Tom Gewecke [mailto:t...@bluesky.org]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 11:27 AM
To: Peter Constable
Cc: Unicode Public
Subject: Re: fonts for U7.0 scripts
On Oct 24, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Peter Constable wrote:
> From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...
On Oct 24, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Peter Constable wrote:
> From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Tom Gewecke
>
>> If someone wants to publish and sell a book in which they say something like
>> "This is how Unicode suggests that character U+ is supposed to look:"
>
>
From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Tom Gewecke
> If someone wants to publish and sell a book in which they say something like
> "This is how Unicode suggests that character U+ is supposed to look:"
Well, since the intent of the codes is to give indication of wha
On Oct 23, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Eric Muller wrote:
>
>> How about even having just the glyphs in the Unicode.org charts being in the
>> public domain?
>
> Very easy to achieve:
>
> 1. Ask the owner of the font how much money he wants to part with his
> property.
> 2. Write a check for the corr
Looks like I spoke too soon -- I seem to distinctly remember this
behaviour from earlier versions (or am I misremembering?!!!) but
Unicode 7.0 charts don't seem to be this way... And SMP glyphs seem to
be mapped to PUA chars. Not really ideal...
BTW for older versions, individual blockwise charts
On 24 October 2014 13:05, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
> Hi Martin. If you haven't noticed it before, opening Unicode charts in
> PDF readers has something like "SECURED" on the top i.o.w. the charts
> are sorta DRM-protected. So you can't copy-paste the characters. Heck
> you can't even copy-paste th
Hi Martin. If you haven't noticed it before, opening Unicode charts in
PDF readers has something like "SECURED" on the top i.o.w. the charts
are sorta DRM-protected. So you can't copy-paste the characters. Heck
you can't even copy-paste the character *names*!
--
Shriramana Sharma ஶ்ரீரமணஶர்மா श्र
On 2014/10/24 10:21, Asmus Freytag wrote:
Peter is correct.
The only fonts that should be released to the public are those that are
Unicode encoded and have the correct shaping tables.
Unlike the public, the code chart editors for Unicode have tools that
can correctly handle not only ASCII-hack
Glass (WINDOWS); Unicode Public
*Subject:* Re: fonts for U7.0 scripts
On Thursday, October 23, 2014, Peter Constable <mailto:peter...@microsoft.com>> wrote:
. But publishing fonts created for the purpose of chart production
may lead to all kinds of problems if they are not truly
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Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:48 PM
To: Peter Constable
Cc: Andrew West; Andrew Glass (WINDOWS); Unicode Public
Subject: Re: fonts for U7.0 scripts
On Thursday, October 23, 2014, Peter Constable
mailto:peter...@microsoft.com>> wrote:
. But publishing fonts created for the purpose of
On Thursday, October 23, 2014, Peter Constable
wrote:
> . But publishing fonts created for the purpose of chart production may
> lead to all kinds of problems if they are not truly functional,
> Unicode-conformant fonts -
>
Dear Peter,
Can you clarify what "all kinds of problems" you foresee?
Am 23.10.2014 um 10:46 schrieb Andrew West:
> A code chart
> font, released under a free license such as the SIL OFL (with any
> necessary limitations clearly stated) is far and away better than
> leaving people puzzling over little square boxes for years.
what are you mourning about?
If you nee
On 23 Oct 2014, at 19:13, Tom Gewecke wrote:
> How about even having just the glyphs in the Unicode.org charts being in the
> public domain? Am I correct that this is currently not the case?
If only one were independently wealthy.
Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
_
How about even having just the glyphs in the Unicode.org charts being in the
public domain?
Very easy to achieve:
1. Ask the owner of the font how much money he wants to part with his
property.
2. Write a check for the corresponding amount.
3. You are now the owner, you can put the font in
On Oct 23, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Peter Constable wrote:
> I think Debbie's position is entirely reasonable. Sure, having useful fonts
> in the public domain soon after standardization would be great. But
> publishing fonts created for the purpose of chart production may lead to all
> kinds of pro
rmant fonts - which is
not necessarily a product of SEI-funded proposal work.
Peter
-Original Message-
From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Andrew West
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 1:47 AM
To: Andrew Glass (WINDOWS)
Cc: Unicode Public
Subject: Re: fonts for
On 22 October 2014 21:47, Andrew Glass (WINDOWS)
wrote:
>
> I think that distributing fonts that are known to be deficient in shaping
> does not address needs
> other than reproducing code charts and supressing tofu. Moreover, such fonts
> create can
> mislead lead users into thinking that a scr
On 22 October 2014 23:58, Asmus Freytag wrote:
>
> Nothing prevents people to put their fonts in the public domain, if they so
> desire, but that can't be a requirement of the character encoding process.
I never said or implied that making the font freely available should
be a requirement of the
On 10/22/2014 12:29 PM, Andrew West wrote:
should not the font be made freely available at the end of
the project?
The policy requires that a license is given to produce the charts and
related documents. No more, no less. This allows people and
organizations to donate a free license for use b
f to
> pay for such work, unfortunately.
>
> Debbie Anderson
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
> West
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:51 AM
> To: Mark Davis ☕️
> Cc: Unicode Public
> Subjec
t;
> Debbie Anderson
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Andrew West
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:51 AM
> To: Mark Davis ☕️
> Cc: Unicode Public
> Subject: Re: fonts for U7.0 scripts
>
> On 22 Octobe
Behalf Of Andrew West
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:51 AM
To: Mark Davis ☕️
Cc: Unicode Public
Subject: Re: fonts for U7.0 scripts
On 22 October 2014 08:27, Mark Davis ☕️ wrote:
> I'm looking for freely downloadable TTF fonts for any of the
> following. I'd appreciate links
The Grantha link is broken. The site no longer exists. I have
contacted the original author. Will post here once he replies.
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Shriramana Sharma ஶ்ரீரமணஶர்மா श्रीरमणशर्मा
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ScriptSource has links to fonts, and you may find some there. For
instance, I immediately found three Bassa_Vah fonts, two of which appear
to be free, one of which costs only $19.
There's also a freeware font for Grantha.
I didn't search further.
(Fwiw, you can find the right ScriptSource pag
On 22 October 2014 08:27, Mark Davis ☕️ wrote:
> I'm looking for freely downloadable TTF fonts for any of the following. I'd
> appreciate links to sites for any of these:
>
> Bassa_Vah
> Duployan
> Grantha
> Khojki
> Khudawadi
> Mahajani
> Mende_Kikakui
> Modi
> Mro
> Nabataean
> Old_Permic
> Pal
Am 22.10.2014 um 09:27 schrieb Mark Davis ☕️:
>
> Bassa_Vah
> Duployan
> Grantha
> Khojki
> Khudawadi
> Mahajani
> Mende_Kikakui
> Modi
> Mro
> Nabataean
> Old_Permic
> Palmyrene
> Pau_Cin_Hau
> Tirhuta
> Warang_Citi
You’re asking for quite a lot – for nothing.
best,
Andreas Stötzner.
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