Re: [hebrew] Re: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-09 Thread John Hudson
Mark E. Shoulson wrote: (I suppose there could be a fuzzy line between those. What do you say about a mark that always appears at the end of a word kinda over-and-to-the-left of the last letter? Like, say, Zarqa in Masoretic Hebrew? Is it a spacing character after the word or a mark on the l

Re: [hebrew] Re: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-09 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
John Hudson wrote: I'll have to look closely at samples again, but it seems to me that the accent marks are not pointing and thus not combining marks (though the vowel points of course are combining marks). They appear to be used more as punctuation than as letter-diacriticals. Do you mean tha

Re: shaping rule? Re: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-08 Thread Peter Kirk
On 08/12/2004 14:36, Peter R. Mueller-Roemer wrote: ... In AraiUni.ttf the 1st Hebrew block works pretty well except that vowel-points and Hebrew accents do not combine under a consonant but the the accent seems to add a space, so that the single word wajalad (& (he) was born 8?)) looks like 2 w

shaping rule? Re: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-08 Thread Peter R. Mueller-Roemer
E. Keown wrote: Elaine Keown Vancouver Dear Philippe and Lists: Hebrew code points are already in 2 blocks. If the UTC had done any kind of appropriate research in the late 1980s, they would have made the main Hebrew block larger. In the so-called 'deprecated' bloc

Re: [hebrew] Re: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-07 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 09:50 PM 12/6/2004, John Hudson wrote: I don't know. I try to avoid politics, if possible. The significance of what I'm saying is that you have made a good start in your proposal, that it has some shortcomings, and that I hope to be able to help put something more complete together. It wou

RE: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-07 Thread Peter Constable
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of E. Keown > In the so-called 'deprecated' block, the 2nd Hebrew > block in the BMP, are composed Hebrew points which I > plan to go on using. And I expect everyone else to go > on using them also, all Hebraists. We think they are

Re: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-07 Thread John Hudson
E. Keown wrote: In the so-called 'deprecated' block, the 2nd Hebrew block in the BMP, are composed Hebrew points which I plan to go on using. And I expect everyone else to go on using them also, all Hebraists. We think they are needed for 'text representation' of shin and sin. It really is a be

Re: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-07 Thread E. Keown
Elaine in Vancouver Dear Mark: Thanks, I guess. > This is the one I'm going to comment on, since it's > the one I know best. > I know that Michael Everson and I are working on a > Samaritan proposal, It appears to me that my proposal came first, no? By some months...I have some mate

Re: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-07 Thread E. Keown
Elaine Keown Vancouver Dear Philippe and Lists: > In all your searches and in your proposals, did you > try to segregate the proposed additional characters > into two separate categories: those needed > for inclusion within many modern studies, and those The Samaritan marks are sti

Re: [hebrew] Re: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-06 Thread John Hudson
Mark E. Shoulson wrote: I don't know. I try to avoid politics, if possible. The significance of what I'm saying is that you have made a good start in your proposal, that it has some shortcomings, and that I hope to be able to help put something more complete together. It would be great if ther

RE: [hebrew] Re: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-06 Thread Peter Constable
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of E. Keown > So what's the significance of what you're saying, > politically? Please explain this question: what is political about this? Peter Constable

Re: [hebrew] Re: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-06 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
E. Keown wrote: Elaine in Vancouver Dear Mark: Thanks, I guess. This is the one I'm going to comment on, since it's the one I know best. I know that Michael Everson and I are working on a Samaritan proposal, It appears to me that my proposal came first, no? By some months...I hav

Re: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-06 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
E. Keown wrote: Elaine Keown in beautiful Vancouver, B.C. Hi, I wrote 3 Hebrew diacritics proposals between May-July. One of them was incorrectly entered in the WG2 online listing. It needs the title below, which includes the word 'Samaritan.' The WG2 listing completely misidentifies

Re: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-06 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: "E. Keown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wrote 3 Hebrew diacritics proposals between May-July. (...) 1. Proposal to add Samaritan Pointing to the UCS http://www.lashonkodesh.org/samarpro.pdf WG2 number: N2748 2. Proposal to add Palestinian Pointing to ISO/IEC 10646 http://www.lashonkodesh.org/palpr