Re: RLI and "bdi", and how to get an update of changes

2013-01-16 Thread Philippe Verdy
- the CSS "unicode-bidi:embed" (used in HTML) does not work like isolates, but really like LRE/RLE and PDF. - the old HTML works like CSS "unicode-bidi:override" and line LRO/RLO and PDF (setting the CSS "text-direction:rtl or ltr" according to the HTML attribute dir="rtl" or "ltr") I think it is

Re: RLI and "bdi", and how to get an update of changes

2013-01-15 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2013-01-16 3:03, Phillips, Addison wrote: Code points 2066, 2067, and 2068 are unassigned. I presume you mean U+202B RIGHT-TO-LEFT EMBEDDING (RLE) and U+202C POP DIRECTIONAL FORMATTING. As Roozbeh pointed out, he means the characters added that provide bidi isolation. I see. The code points

Re: RLI and "bdi", and how to get an update of changes

2013-01-15 Thread Philippe Verdy
What is the difference between the proposed LRI and RLI with, respectively, and ? Why do we need LRI and RLI as well, when FSI should be enough for all isolates (for which there's no good reason to force the direction of their embedded texts when FSI/PDI is exactly needed because we don't want t

RE: RLI and "bdi", and how to get an update of changes

2013-01-15 Thread Whistler, Ken
> >> what does that different from the RLI > >> U+2067/PDF U+2068? if it is the same, can we use U+2066 in HTML > replacing > >> ""? > > Code points 2066, 2067, and 2068 are unassigned. I presume you mean > U+202B RIGHT-TO-LEFT EMBEDDING (RLE) and U+202C POP DIRECTIONAL > FORMATTING. No, actua

RE: RLI and "bdi", and how to get an update of changes

2013-01-15 Thread Phillips, Addison
> Code points 2066, 2067, and 2068 are unassigned. I presume you mean > U+202B RIGHT-TO-LEFT EMBEDDING (RLE) and U+202C POP DIRECTIONAL > FORMATTING. As Roozbeh pointed out, he means the characters added that provide bidi isolation. The W3C Internationalization WG recommends that you use markup

Re: RLI and "bdi", and how to get an update of changes

2013-01-15 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > Code points 2066, 2067, and 2068 are unassigned. > Not anymore. See the pipeline and the latest proposed update of UAX#9: http://www.unicode.org/alloc/Pipeline.html http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr9/proposed.html

Re: RLI and "bdi", and how to get an update of changes

2013-01-15 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2013-01-16 1:18, James Lin wrote: I have 2 fundamental questions. I’ll address the first one only. HTML5 supports isolation tag "bdi", The HTML5 drafts have it, but browser support is still limited. As described at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8012939/ways-to-simulate-the-yet-unimp

RLI and "bdi", and how to get an update of changes

2013-01-15 Thread James Lin
>Hi, >I have 2 fundamental questions. > >HTML5 supports isolation tag "bdi", what does that different from the RLI >U+2067/PDF U+2068? if it is the same, can we use U+2066 in HTML replacing >""? > >Also, from the programming point of view that do not use ICU(such as >.NET, Perl, Java), how can we