Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-25 Thread Erik van der Poel
Lars Marius Garshol wrote: > > I don't know what you mean by 'font linking info', but Windows font > signatures have had a bit set aside for Georgian for quite a while and > they now also have one for Ethiopic. So it's straightforward to handle > display of both these languages without forcing us

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-24 Thread Doug Ewell
Elaine Keown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there some automatic procedure that will happen soon, where a new > UTF-8 will come out that has all the Hebrew symbols from Unicode 2.0 > and 3.0? Does the increase in size of the Hebrew character set > interact with UTF-8 in some negative way? UTF

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-24 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Elaine Keown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm interested in using the more recent Unicode Hebrew versions on Web sites. These versions have about 30 more symbols for Hebrew Bible text than the original Unicode from the early 90s. > > But the UTF-8 versions I found on the Web only seem to have t

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-24 Thread Elaine Keown
Hello, I'm interested in using the more recent Unicode Hebrew versions on Web sites. These versions have about 30 more symbols for Hebrew Bible text than the original Unicode from the early 90s. But the UTF-8 versions I found on the Web only seem to have the early 90s version of Hebrew, and

Re: Unicode on a website: ? Devanagari

2000-09-24 Thread Steven R. Loomis
You will find examples of Devanagari on the ICU locale explorer pages.. http://oss.software.ibm.com/icu/demo/ Try Marathi, Konkani, and Hindi. The encoding should be UTF-8 by default or you can change it at the bottom of the page. Hindi especialy has an extensive but incomplete list of translat

RE: Unicode on a website

2000-09-24 Thread Doug Ewell
"Carl W. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > scsu makes sense for large blocks of data. Send the frame work in > utf-8 but use HTTP to request the bulk data in scsu. If it is a > small amount of data you don't want to pay the overhead of the > compression. SCSU was intentionally designed to be

Re: Unicode on a website: ? Devanagari

2000-09-24 Thread James Kass
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Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 09:28:49PM -0800, Carl W. Brown wrote: > SCSU is a character stream compression technique not exactly a character > encoding scheme. It's a text encoding form that happens to be smaller than many alternatives, and that's a little complex to decode. So? > I don't think

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread Andrew Cunningham
I've never had much trouble under IE5 or IE5.5 or even Nescape 4 with utf-8 encoded ethiopic - Original Message - From: James Kass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Unicode List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2000 2:30 AM Subject: Re: Unicode on a website > &

RE: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread Carl W. Brown
rl -Original Message- From: David Starner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 10:13 AM To: Unicode List Subject: Re: Unicode on a website On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 07:54:15AM -0800, Carl W. Brown wrote: > First is there a standard for implementing SCSU in browsers? If n

RE: Unicode on a website: ? Devanagari

2000-09-23 Thread Carl W. Brown
Chris, Just came across an interesting site: http://www.hclrss.demon.co.uk/unicode/ Follow some of the links. Carl -Original Message- From: Christopher J. Fynn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 1:15 PM To: Unicode List Subject: Re: Unicode on a website

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread Doug Ewell
David Starner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's no confusion. If the content tag is going to be read without > outside knowledge of the encoding form, then it's got to be in ASCII, > and since it's got to be in SCSU, too, it has to be in that common > subset - i.e. CR/LF/HT and printable ASCII

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread Doug Ewell
David Starner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> First is there a standard for implementing SCSU in browsers? If not >> then we need to do that first. > > Huh? It's a text encoding. You should keep everything through the > Content-Type ASCII (that only uses LF, CR and HT and graphic > characters, so

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread David Starner
(The list is munging my headers! Reply-to is being deleted! I guess I'm going to have to munge the From address then.) On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 04:29:16PM -0400, Doug Ewell wrote: > David Starner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> First is there a standard for implementing SCSU in browsers? If no

Re: Unicode on a website: ? Devanagari

2000-09-23 Thread Christopher J. Fynn
Anyone know of any Devanagari documents (Sanskrit, Hindi, Nepali) on the Web using UTF-8 (other than the pages at http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/unicode/samples/rvbeispx.htm ) - especially any using Dynamic fonts? I am not interested in Devanagri sites using font based encodings. - Chris

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, David Starner wrote: > Does everything support UTF-8 HTML with a BOM? Even Frontpage 2000 has some problems with it, under Windows 98, as I remember.

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 07:54:15AM -0800, Carl W. Brown wrote: > First is there a standard for implementing SCSU in browsers? If not then we > need to do that first. Huh? It's a text encoding. You should keep everything through the Content-Type ASCII (that only uses LF, CR and HT and graphic cha

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread James Kass
Lars Marius Garshol wrote about problems viewing Ethiopic and Georgian in MSIE 5.5 Here is a link for Unicode Ethiopic along with a downloadable font. http://enh.ethiopiaonline.net/G.pl/UTF8/ In order to see your font of choice here, you have to manually set the encoding for the browser [ view

RE: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread Carl W. Brown
David, First is there a standard for implementing SCSU in browsers? If not then we need to do that first. Carl -Original Message- From: David Starner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:35 PM To: Unicode List Subject: Re: Unicode on a website On Fri, Sep

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* Lars Marius Garshol | | MSIE 5.5 does pretty well, but for some reason it fails to display | Georgian and Ethiopic, even if there are fonts that support these | scripts on the system. No doubt there are other holes as well, | although these are the only ones I've noticed. * Michael Kaplan | |

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
/ - Original Message - From: "Lars Marius Garshol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Unicode List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 6:28 AM Subject: Re: Unicode on a website > > * Timothy Greenwood > | > | Internet Explorer s

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* Markus Scherer | | there is one more thing: scsu would work well as an html/xml | encoding and is easily decoded without bulky tables. it can be | similarly compact to language-specific codepages. What is the current state of SCSU software right now? If a browser were to implement it, is it l

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* Timothy Greenwood | | Internet Explorer seems to do a very nice job of picking up the | available fonts, but Communicator is less good. MSIE 5.5 does pretty well, but for some reason it fails to display Georgian and Ethiopic, even if there are fonts that support these scripts on the system.

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-22 Thread James Partridge
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 5:35 AM Subject: Unicode on a website > > > > > Hi friends, > I would like to have some information from all of you regarding the > utility of unicode in a website. > > That is to say that I would like to kn

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-22 Thread Jianping Yang
ichael > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 2:11 AM > To: Unicode List > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:FWD: Unicode on a website > > Hi, Santosh. > > I am forwa

RE: Unicode on a website

2000-09-22 Thread Michael Kung
] Subject:FWD: Unicode on a website Hi, Santosh. I am forwarding your questions to the Unicode List, as there are many people there that know much more than me about web programming and databases. What I can say, is that I don't see how Unicode could have any noticeable impact o

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-22 Thread David Starner
On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 10:51:26AM -0800, Markus Scherer wrote: > so, how do we get scsu support into ie 6 and netscape 7? For netscape, you write the code and offer it to the mozilla people. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-22 Thread Markus Scherer
plenty of people responded about trade-offs between utf-8 page size and conversion overhead - there is one more thing: scsu would work well as an html/xml encoding and is easily decoded without bulky tables. it can be similarly compact to language-specific codepages. so, how do we get scsu su

RE: Unicode on a website

2000-09-22 Thread addison
There is a furious debate about whether it is time to send UTF-8 all the way to the browser. What Tim has outlined is exactly the problem: Netscape on Windows and older IE browsers do not use the correct font for non-Western European languages in their default configuration. Mozilla and IE5 work i

RE: Unicode on a website

2000-09-22 Thread Timothy Greenwood
Is this a web page for general and public use, or can you control the browsers that will be used? Internet Explorer seems to do a very nice job of picking up the available fonts, but Communicator is less good. It still seems to require a specific Unicode font. I am being hesitant since it is a w

RE: Unicode on a website

2000-09-22 Thread Carl W. Brown
icode List Subject: Unicode on a website Hi friends, I would like to have some information from all of you regarding the utility of unicode in a website. That is to say that I would like to know if any of you have a website that uses unicode,how its performance is and other such details

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-22 Thread James Kass
ROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:35 PM Subject: Unicode on a website > > > > > Hi friends, > I would like to have some information from all of you regarding the > utility of unicode in a website. > > That is to say that I would like to know if any

FWD: Unicode on a website

2000-09-22 Thread Marco . Cimarosti
, Thu 12.29 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Unicode on a website > > > > Hi, >I would like to have some information from you > regarding the utility of > unicode in a website. > > That is to say that I would like to know if you have a > website that u

Unicode on a website

2000-09-21 Thread Santosh.S.N
Hi friends, I would like to have some information from all of you regarding the utility of unicode in a website. That is to say that I would like to know if any of you have a website that uses unicode,how its performance is and other such details. To be more precise I would specifi