more flexible pipeline for new scripts and characters

2011-11-16 Thread Peter Cyrus
I've only been on this list for some months, and I only came to it with my own little project in mind, but it occurs to me, as I follow all these threads, that Unicode might benefit from a more flexible process of adaptation, of Unicodification. The model would be an asymptotic approach to standar

Re: more flexible pipeline for new scripts and characters

2011-11-16 Thread Asmus Freytag
Peter, in principle, the idea of a provisional status is a useful concept whenever one wants to "publish" something based on potentially doubtful or possibly incomplete information. And you are correct, that, in principle, such an approach could be most useful whenever there's no possibility

Re: more flexible pipeline for new scripts and characters

2011-11-16 Thread Peter Cyrus
I guess what I'm proposing is that the proposed allocations be implemented, so that problems may be unearthed, even as the users accept that the standard is still only provisional. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Asmus Freytag wrote: > Peter, > > in principle, the idea of a provisional status i

Re: more flexible pipeline for new scripts and characters

2011-11-16 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 11/16/2011 6:37 AM, Peter Cyrus wrote: I guess what I'm proposing is that the proposed allocations be implemented, so that problems may be unearthed, even as the users accept that the standard is still only provisional. Where "users" are programmers, such as is the case with certain proper

RE: more flexible pipeline for new scripts and characters

2011-11-16 Thread Doug Ewell
Peter Cyrus wrote: > In other words, people could propose a new script or character and > rather than have it discussed before encoding and then encoded in > permanence, with no possibility even to correct obvious errors as in > U+FE18, instead it would be provisionally accepted but still subject

Re: more flexible pipeline for new scripts and characters

2011-11-18 Thread Karl Williamson
On 11/16/2011 07:25 AM, Asmus Freytag wrote: Peter, in principle, the idea of a provisional status is a useful concept whenever one wants to "publish" something based on potentially doubtful or possibly incomplete information. And you are correct, that, in principle, such an approach could be mo

Re: more flexible pipeline for new scripts and characters

2011-11-18 Thread Ken Whistler
On 11/18/2011 1:30 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: How is this different from Named sequences, which are published provisionally? Named sequences aren't character properties. When a newly encoded character is published in the standard, its code point, its name, and dozens of other properties all ha

Re: more flexible pipeline for new scripts and characters

2011-11-18 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 11/18/2011 1:30 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: On 11/16/2011 07:25 AM, Asmus Freytag wrote: The whole reason that some aspects of character encoding are "write once" (can never be changed) is to prevent such obsolete data in documents. How is this different from Named sequences, which ar

Re: more flexible pipeline for new scripts and characters

2011-11-18 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 11/18/2011 3:06 PM, Ken Whistler wrote: On 11/18/2011 1:30 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: How is this different from Named sequences, which are published provisionally? Named sequences aren't character properties. The provide information about characters in context - in that sense they are s

RE: more flexible pipeline for new scripts and characters

2011-11-20 Thread Peter Constable
From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Doug Ewell > This is one of the things the PUA is for. Unfortunately, it has become > very popular to tell people to stay away from the PUA, that it is evil > and unsuitable for any sort of interchange That's an

Re: more flexible pipeline for new scripts and characters

2011-11-20 Thread Doug Ewell
able Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:28 To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: RE: more flexible pipeline for new scripts and characters From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Doug Ewell This is one of the things the PUA is for. Unfortunately, it has be