Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-28 Thread Anthony West
I don't agree with you, Ray. Arthur Ross Gallery, which you represent, is a corporate entity. By choosing to place this vision before the community, you made it Penn's vision, on some level. On some level, Penn is obligated to present a coherent explanation of why your vision (which does seem t

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-28 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Ross Bender wrote: Thanks, Tony, but I just need to point out that Mennonites are no longer a single ethnic group. Historically, we have been Swiss-German, Dutch, Frisian and Prussian -- The Mennonites being showcased at the Arthur Ross Gallery are some of the latter who were invited to the Ukrai

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-28 Thread Anthony West
Classifying "the Mennonites" as a whole is an interesting challenge. I have a friend whose father is Swiss and who grew up speaking German, at Goshen as well as in the Juras. A heritage like this, 400 years old, is an ethnicity, complete with unique garb, economic adaptations, language and home

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-27 Thread Ross Bender
Thanks, Tony, but I just need to point out that Mennonites are no longer a single ethnic group. Historically, we have been Swiss-German, Dutch, Frisian and Prussian -- The Mennonites being showcased at the Arthur Ross Gallery are some of the latter who were invited to the Ukraine and are known amon

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-27 Thread Anthony West
No, it's really Ray's turn to answer questions, since he has reentered politics. Ray, you just posted some pictures on UC-list, as a responsible party to an exhibit at your employer Penn's Arthur Ross Gallery. While undeniably pretty, we have read testimony some members of the ethnic group you

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-27 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Ross Bender wrote: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: meanwhile, ross, you like to talk about real mennonites here in west philly, but you never once told us how linford martin, owner of the firehouse, worked out the deal with ucd and rosemarie certo to have dock street installed ther

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-27 Thread Ross Bender
On 7/27/07, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > meanwhile, ross, you like to talk about real mennonites here > in west philly, but you never once told us how linford > martin, owner of the firehouse, worked out the deal with ucd > and rosemarie certo to have dock street installed

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-27 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Ross Bender wrote: OK, dude, I'll be picketing that reception, and handing out literature about the REAL Mennonites. The title is just ridiculous. It would be as if some jerk had a gallery show called "The Jews" and showed photos of Lubavitcher Hassidim from Brooklyn. That is to say: Hassidim:J

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-26 Thread Ross Bender
OK, dude, I'll be picketing that reception, and handing out literature about the REAL Mennonites. The title is just ridiculous. It would be as if some jerk had a gallery show called "The Jews" and showed photos of Lubavitcher Hassidim from Brooklyn. That is to say: Hassidim:Jews :: Old Colony Men

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-26 Thread Anthony West
Beautiful work. -- Tony West UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote: http://www.upenn.edu/ARG/archive/mennonites/index.html [at the arthur ross gallery, penn campus] well, ross, I got to put the finishing touches on today: http://tinyurl.com/2679lp exhibit opens july 31, but the opening recept

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-26 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote: here, have another: http://www.upenn.edu/ARG/archive/mennonites/index.html [at the arthur ross gallery, penn campus] Ross Bender wrote: Thanks for the heads up, Ray. Looks like these are photos of a branch called the Old Colony Mennonites. Since Amish and Men

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-18 Thread Ross Bender
On 7/18/07, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: here, have another: http://www.upenn.edu/ARG/archive/mennonites/index.html [at the arthur ross gallery, penn campus] Thanks for the heads up, Ray. Looks like these are photos of a branch called the Old Colony Mennonites. Since

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-18 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Ross Bender wrote: On the Letterman Late show on July 11, Diddy reminisced about his summers as a Fresh-Air Kid on an Amish farm. Yet another instance of the Amish/Mennonite contribution to American culture. [this has been a Mennonite history moment] http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/waho

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-16 Thread Anthony West
Thank you for keeping me up to date on the latest currents in popular culture, Ross. It is why we English keep the Plain Folk around, as far as I'm concerned. Throw Poppa down the stairs his iPod, vunscht. -- Tony West Ross Bender wrote: This is indeed P. Diddy, formerly known as Puff Daddy,

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-16 Thread Ross Bender
This is indeed P. Diddy, formerly known as Puff Daddy, now simply Diddy. On 7/16/07, Anthony West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We are talking about P. Diddy here, Ross, or is this some other Diddy? -- Tony Ross Bender wrote: > On the Letterman Late show on July 11, Diddy reminisced about his >

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-16 Thread Anthony West
We are talking about P. Diddy here, Ross, or is this some other Diddy? -- Tony Ross Bender wrote: On the Letterman Late show on July 11, Diddy reminisced about his summers as a Fresh-Air Kid on an Amish farm. Yet another instance of the Amish/Mennonite contribution to American culture. [this h

[UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-16 Thread Ross Bender
On the Letterman Late show on July 11, Diddy reminisced about his summers as a Fresh-Air Kid on an Amish farm. Yet another instance of the Amish/Mennonite contribution to American culture. [this has been a Mennonite history moment] http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/wahoo/index/php/20070711.ph