S, OK, I realize I'm posting so much I'm in danger of having to call myself out as a big mouth, but I'll leave it to the handful of posters to do that for me if its safe.
I'm glad that you agree with at least one of my thoughts. I do need to say, however, that you have erroneously called out Bruce for being uninvolved in the community twice. I have personal knowledge that this claim is false, as he has devoted countless hours with Troop 152, including being scoutmaster for a number of years. The Troop is affiliated with SFDS and is a valued community presence. Being a scout master is a huge commitment of time. I suspect he is involved in other things in addition to his active participation is our e-community. Bruce did not name you and I had no reason to think you were the subject of his post. Presumably you had good reason to think that naming him would advance the conversation. I'm not sure what kind of information and processing is needed for a person to "know" that another person in the neighborhood is uninvolved in the community, but you got this one wrong. Paul -----Original Message----- From: S. Sharrieff Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'UnivCity listserv' <univcity@list.purple.com> Cc: 'pfsni list' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 7:03 pm Subject: [UC] RE: Listserve Reform of the UC list I think 85% of the problem is that e-mail frees many people of normal social constraints. People will e-attack when they would never do so in person, or not in the same inappropriate manner. I also think sometimes people can write in a manner that sounds more harsh than they intend or realize, especially since there are no visual cues to the contrary as would be the case in a face to face. Paul The above statement really sums much of the problem up to me. It is all about having common respect for each other in your community, virtual or otherwise. The “so-called” listserv stalker Bruce is referring to is me. And for the record Bruce, I will match my reputation in this community against yours any day of the week. Neighbors know what I have done here for years and continue to do. Bruce has been on a bully and hate campaign for quite sometime trying to migrate people from UC-List over to “Phillyblog” for years. Bruce is someone who spends entirely too much time in the “on-line” world and has adopted all the online habits of infiltrating listservs and spreading lies and innuendo on-list and privately after “sniffing” e-mail addresses of posters. How juvenile and pathetic. I approached Bruce in the park and all of a sudden this “Listserv Bully” and “Cyber-Offending Giant”, looking at a 6’, 200 pound man, turned into a stuttering coward who literally ran with a baby-in-coach while screaming “stay away from me”! (poor baby in coach…maybe I should have screamed DHS!) I simply reminded him I was a real person and not someone in his “video-game” world. Wow Bruce, maybe you should have just treated me with a bit more respect on-line and it could have been…as they say.. “just a walk in the park”. I never “stalked” you in anyway and you know it. This kind of cyber “pseudo-intimidation” is exactly why you should go where ever people like you go…to yet another listserv. I am entirely too busy to care. And…BTW..”listserv stalker” would refer to someone who is stalking someone on-line. Most of this mess we are talking about is related to jealousy against those of us who actually DO SOMETHING about building our community and empowering residents as partners with the institutions. Bruce, the more you attempt to defame me, privately or otherwise, the more people realize how dysfunctional you really are. And just what have you ever done in this community anyway? S -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B Andersen Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 5:10 PM To: UnivCity listserv Cc: pfsni list Subject: Re: Listserve Reform of the UC list It's self-evident. I wasn't really in favor of Kyle starting a new list since psfni is almost dead, and I thought Univcity was salvageable. Though I may stay on the announce list, after 8 years in this virtual community I'm unsubscribing from univcity@list.purple.com because the signal to noise ratio is ludicrous. Really though, the last straw was a couple of weeks ago when I a listserve poster verbally assaulted me in Clark Park over listserve issues and engaged in some behavior I might consider stalking. See you all around. b P.S. Fair warning to the Listserve Stalker: If you come near me or my family again, I'm going to slap a Restraining Order on you faster than you can say "Law Enforcement." On 7/28/07, Kathy O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Could you please define "bad traffic" ? B Andersen wrote: > I'm tired of the bad traffic here on the listserve, and I know I'm not > the only one. I propose we meet in person to discuss one (or more) of > five options: > > *Develop rules and guidelines (and allow moderation) > *Migrate to psfni > *start an alternate group > *Move to a BB like Phillyblog > *leave things as they are ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
