Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-20 Thread stroom
Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 2009 Ubuntu 7.04 - Supported to 2008 The "LTS" version of Ubuntu receives long-term support. 3 years for desktop versions and 5 years for server versions. So the 6.06 is indeed in theory more stable and longer supported. However I saw that Ubuntu 7.04 will be install

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-20 Thread mgh
Thanks for the explanation bukharin, I appreciate that and will keep it around. stroom: Somewhere in my searching around before deciding on a distro, Ubuntu 6.10 was recommended. I don't remember now what the person said, I believe their recommendation was that it was very stable, and a good pla

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-20 Thread stroom
mgh, If you use Ubuntu 7.04, the mounting of the external disk will be done with the correct umask "out of the box". -- stroom == Squeezebox 3// Synology DS101j Last.FM //AlienBBC --

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-19 Thread bukharin
Glad to hear it. I explained a little about umasks in an earlier thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=196941&postcount=11 I'll cut, paste and update the relevant bits: The way the umask works is: - the first number refers to the owner of the file - the second number refers to mem

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-19 Thread mgh
Oh my gosh bukharin, you finally pound it in to me! That worked, SS is scanning my files now. Much of my difficulty here still comes down to the fact that I was only copying what you kind people were helping me to do, without understanding much of it. If you don't mind, would you refresh my mem

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-19 Thread bukharin
That's right, but remember to add sudo at the front (I'm not used to sudo - I just do su and live dangerously :-) -- bukharin bukharin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10859 View this thread: http

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-19 Thread mgh
Sorry, I got lost here. I will hazard a guess you are writing of the command you gave me in post # 30. I will try the umount and mount. Thanks again. -- mgh mgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-19 Thread bukharin
You need to change the umask. The current permissions are too restrictive, and woudln't work even if you messed around with slimserver's group setting. In terms of remounting the drive, first you need to unmount it: sudo umount /media/SimpleDrive Then remount it with the command you already trie

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-19 Thread mgh
Ok sorry about this. Is there a consensus here? Do I need to change the umask to change permissions, or add SS as a user. Either way I am still at a loss as how to accomplish. When I tried /etc/group, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /etc/group sudo: /etc/group: command not found I have

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-19 Thread stroom
mgh;203134 Wrote: > this is the reply I got from the command line: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/SimpleDrive -t ntfs -o > rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=022,iocharset=utf8 > Password: > mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/SimpleDrive busy > mount: according

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-19 Thread mgh
this is the reply I got from the command line: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/SimpleDrive -t ntfs -o rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=022,iocharset=utf8 Password: mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/SimpleDrive busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mo

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-18 Thread Mark Lanctot
bukharin;203019 Wrote: > That may work, but the problem is that the external hard drive is not > guaranteed to remain /dev/sda1. If, for example, you plug in a USB > thumb drive or a digital camera -before- plugging in the external hard > drive, then that device will become /dev/sda1 and the exte

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-18 Thread bukharin
Mark Lanctot;202921 Wrote: > Oh and BTW to mount the drive, don't use mtab as that's not permanent. > Use /etc/fstab as that is permanent. Modify it using "sudo gedit > /etc/fstab". Add: > > > Code: > > /dev/sda1 /media/SimpleDrive ntfs umask=222,utf8 0 0 ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-18 Thread Mark Lanctot
mgh;202828 Wrote: > Anyone with suggestions for good resources for me to learn about Linux > commands? Any time you have a question about a command, type "man ". The description that comes up is complete but can sometimes be complicated. You may also want to google for the command name, there

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-18 Thread bukharin
mgh;202829 Wrote: > /etc/mtab:/dev/sda1 /media/SimpleDrive ntfs > rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 0 > > You know, this could be fun if I can learn my way around. Yes, it's the beginning of the addiction... ;-) That umask=077 needs to be changed to 022. However, you

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-17 Thread mgh
/etc/mtab:/dev/sda1 /media/SimpleDrive ntfs rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 0 You know, this could be fun if I can learn my way around. -- mgh mgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/memb

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-17 Thread mgh
I have this weekend off, so will try looking around. Anyone with suggestions for good resources for me to learn about Linux commands? Everything I have, with the exception of 4 partitions for installation of PCLinuxOS and Ubuntu are NTFS. I got some good help in another thread about formatting,

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-17 Thread bukharin
mgh;202820 Wrote: > So would the next step be along the lines of what bukharin is > describing? Yes :-) I haven't had time to look into this yet, but I'm quite sure it's a very simple case of changing a umask=277 to umask=022 somewhere in a config file for automounting external drives. If you'r

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-17 Thread mgh
Hi again, sudo chmod -R 777 /media/SimpleDrive/music got me a whole bunch of this: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/SimpleDrive/music/FLAC/PowerAMP/Elvis Costello/My Aim Is True/Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True [Rhino Bonus Disc] Disc 1 - 08 - Less Than Zero.flac': Read-only file system chm

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-17 Thread snarlydwarf
On my system (from /etc/passwd): slimserver:x:110:65534:SlimServer,,,:/usr/share/slimserver:/bin/false The numeric ID of the slimserver user is 110, and the default group is 65534 (nogroup). You would need to create a new group (on Debian: "groupadd slimserver" would do it), then assign the sli

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Lanctot
bukharin;202668 Wrote: > Look at /etc/group Thanks - interesting but slimserver isn't listed? -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910&postcount=2) --

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-17 Thread bukharin
Mark Lanctot;202659 Wrote: > I don't know how to find which groups my system has and which group > slimserver is in. Look at /etc/group -- bukharin bukharin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1085

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Lanctot
I think the missing part of the whole thing - mgh, you carried out "sudo chmod -R 777" on "/media/simpledrive/music", not "/media/SimpleDrive/music" (note case!) So try: Code: sudo chmod -R 777 /media/SimpleDrive/music mgh - highlight that line, r

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-17 Thread bukharin
mgh;202553 Wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /media/SimpleDrive > total 16 > dr-x-- 1 mike mike 4096 2007-05-08 18:38 back up > dr-x-- 1 mike mike 8192 2007-05-09 17:20 music > This is the problem. The "music" directory is owned by the user "mike", and belongs to the group "mike".

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-16 Thread mgh
sorry, had a minor emergency, so late getting back. Here are the latest results. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -la /media total 60 drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 2007-05-16 17:48 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2007-05-11 18:58 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root6 2007-05-10 12:19 cdrom -> cdrom0

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-16 Thread Mark Lanctot
mgh;202523 Wrote: > I have heard the term "mount" the drive, though I do not know what that > means. I can open the simpledrive (USB external HHD), navigate through > it, and play FLAC files that are stored on the drive. In Windows, you have the old "c:" drive, then other drives with similar le

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-16 Thread SteveEast
Ahhh, it's /media/SimpleDrive rather than /media/simpledrive. Case is significant in Linux. Since you say you tried pasting *exactly* /media/SimpleDrive/music into SS, we should probably look at the permissions next: ls -la /media ls -l /media/SimpleDrive ls -l /media/SimpleDrive/music Steve.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-16 Thread mgh
here is the df command results: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hdb4 10080520 2673420 6895032 28% / varrun 25716888257080 1% /var/run varlock 257168 0257168

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-15 Thread SteveEast
mgh;202278 Wrote: > now this: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo chmod -R 777/media/simpledrive/music > Password: > chmod: missing operand after `777/media/simpledrive/music' > Try `chmod --help' for more information. > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo chmod -R 777 /media/simpledrive/music > chmod: cannot a

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-15 Thread Mark Lanctot
mgh;202278 Wrote: > now this: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo chmod -R 777/media/simpledrive/music > Password: > chmod: missing operand after `777/media/simpledrive/music' > Try `chmod --help' for more information. > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo chmod -R 777 /media/simpledrive/music > chmod: cannot a

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-15 Thread mgh
now this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo chmod -R 777/media/simpledrive/music Password: chmod: missing operand after `777/media/simpledrive/music' Try `chmod --help' for more information. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo chmod -R 777 /media/simpledrive/music chmod: cannot access `/media/simpledrive/music': N

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-15 Thread Mark Lanctot
mgh;202269 Wrote: > These are the messages I get from those two commands. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo chmod -R777/media/simpledrive/music > Password: > chmod: invalid option -- 7 > Try `chmod --help' for more information. You need a space between the "R" and the first "7". > [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-15 Thread mgh
These are the messages I get from those two commands. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo chmod -R777/media/simpledrive/music Password: chmod: invalid option -- 7 Try `chmod --help' for more information. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls-l/media/simpledrive bash: ls-l/media/simpledrive: No such file or directory S

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-15 Thread bukharin
mgh;202046 Wrote: > Also, I followed the instructions to get the file path for my music > folder (thanks for those instructions, I did not know how to do that > with Ubuntu), copied and pasted, tried to scan, and get the message > "opps, media/simpledrive/music does not appear to be a valid > dir

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-14 Thread Mark Lanctot
mgh;202046 Wrote: > I've never used a router before. In XP it was pretty simple, I really > did not have to do a thing, the SB found the wireless network, all I > had to do was set a password for encryption. > > So. Do I need to go in and set up my router again while running Ubuntu > instead o

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-14 Thread snarlydwarf
Mark Lanctot;201831 Wrote: > Hmm, tried this and it's a bit of a chicken-and-egg thing. If I run the > chown and find command as anything other than root (though "sudo") it > won't allow me due to incorrect permissions. > > But when I do these commands as root, they run fine but all the > permi

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-14 Thread mgh
Well I'm still not there. I've never used a router before. In XP it was pretty simple, I really did not have to do a thing, the SB found the wireless network, all I had to do was set a password for encryption. So. Do I need to go in and set up my router again while running Ubuntu instead of ru

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-14 Thread Mark Lanctot
snarlydwarf;201758 Wrote: > Slimserver doesn't need to write to files (excepting playlists). So > what I do: > > chown -R me ~/music > find ~/music -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; > find ~/music -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; > > The playlist directory is: > chmod 1777 ~/playlists > > That lets

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-13 Thread snarlydwarf
Mark Lanctot;201754 Wrote: > > Check permissions - SS may not have read permission on the files. I'm > trying to figure out the best way to do this myself, but an insecure > way is in a command terminal, "sudo chmod -R 777 path>". 777 gives read, write and execute access to everyone. This is

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-13 Thread Mark Lanctot
mgh;201750 Wrote: > OK, making progress. > > I was able to open localhost:9000, and got the familiar SS page. > Unfortunately it could not find my SB. Have you pointed your SB to it yet? The server's IP or name has probably changed. > Also, when installing on XP, it lead me through the steps

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-13 Thread mgh
OK, making progress. I was able to open localhost:9000, and got the familiar SS page. Unfortunately it could not find my SB. Also, when installing on XP, it lead me through the steps to point to my music folder. It did not do this when I opened localhost, and I have been unable to configure th

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-13 Thread Mark Lanctot
When I downloaded SlimServer in Ubuntu, everything just worked. SlimServer could be running - there was nothing on the command line I had to do to it. Try opening localhost:9000 in your web browser. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slim

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-13 Thread Pat Farrell
mgh wrote: > I tried a sudo command (my first try at any command line) that I saw > in another post, but got message that no such command existed (or > something to that affect). You should see something like this sudo usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v usage: sudo [-HPSb] [-p prompt]

[SlimDevices: Unix] sorry, even another newbie SS install question

2007-05-13 Thread mgh
I am very new to Linux. Every time I think I am making progress I get stumped again. using Ubuntu 6.10. Went to software sources, third party, added the SS address. Opened synaptic, found the SS listed, checked, apply. Progress bar says downloading, then says installing SS, everything going g