Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Chipp Walters
Terry, Thank you for your thoughtful reply. A couple of thoughts crossed my mind while reading it. Years ago, in a former life, I used to attend various CEO conferences. At one of them, I had a chance to visit with Eric Schmidt, now of Google, but then he was with Sun. We got to talking about

Re: [ANN] MobGUI web site

2011-06-21 Thread John Craig
Thanks, John and Ken. I posted the same announcement on the forum :) I was up late last night, burning the midnight oil - documenting! On 21/06/2011 03:53, Ken Ray wrote: Agreed! BTW: I added MobGUI to the Other Controls page at the DropTools site; you may want to notify the LiveCode

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Chipp Walters
Andre, Very nice! Of course your challenge will be how to add a geometry manager to the stack-- and the resulting website! It might be interesting to have it pop out a WordPress theme ;-) Good stuff for sure. I look forward to hearing more about it. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Andre

Re: [ANN] MobGUI web site

2011-06-21 Thread Chipp Walters
John, Wow. Looks great. I look forward to trying the iPad version ;-) On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:16 AM, John Craig j...@splash21.com wrote: Thanks, John and Ken. I posted the same announcement on the forum :) I was up late last night, burning the midnight oil - documenting! On

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Andre Garzia
Chipp, You know what? I already have part of the geometry manager somewhat working. You can see that rectangle graphics, it has a geometry setting for absolute position on the right side, I use that as a hint that the given object should have width: 100% instead of its actual width... it is all

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Pierre Sahores
I don't expect that some LiveCard HC equivalent will ever help us to build professional grade HTML5/CSS3 LC powered client-side apps. On the other hand, in about server-side LC-server driven apps, i expect that a full revamped set of htmltext and unicode LC-engine features would greatly help us

the mouseText and Unicode: a 3-char puzzle

2011-06-21 Thread Slava Paperno
Following Tariel's report, here is a puzzle: Make a text entry field and set its font to Arial,Unicode. Put these three characters in the field and lock it: - The first one is decimal 171, the last one is decimal 187; they are called Double Angle Quotation Marks. The one in the middle is

Re: the mouseText and Unicode: a 3-char puzzle

2011-06-21 Thread BNig
Slava, no contribution to the puzzle but maybe to more sleep: the HTMLText works for selecting «—» and copying it. And all words afterwards. No order in the chaotic universe, just managing it, word by word :) Kind regards Bernd -- View this message in context:

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre Garzia wrote: I just can't resist, this thread is just too good. Here is a movie I just recorded: http://andregarzia.com/movies/revimpossible.mp4 Is that Gnome 3? Which distro are you using? Looks nice. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting:

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Andre Garzia
Richard, That is Fedora 15 running Gnome 3.0. It is very good and it will replace Mac OS X as my main machine as soon as we get feature parity between the platforms (revBrowser, I am looking at you). I am running vanilla Fedora 15, with no tweaks or anything, just the plain OS. I've installed

Re: [OT ??] OpenXION

2011-06-21 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Mon, 20 Jun 2011 22:25:07 +0300 Richmond Mathewson wrote: http://code.google.com/p/openxion/ XION is an xTalk language similar to the ones used by HyperCard, SuperCard, and Runtime Revolution. Interesting project! Hopefully it gain more supporters from Java developers. Who could benchmark

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-21 Thread Bob Sneidar
I don't think I could abide the No Network - No Work thing. There are a lot of things I like to do with the iPad which do not require a network. Book reading for example. Also I like to map my progress on road trips. Playing games on a flight, or watching a movie or playing music, all things

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Bob Sneidar
Actually there is a compile step. The beauty is that it happens in the dev environment as the app is running, and only to script objects that have been edited. Try to execute an uncompiled script and it will run like the previously compiled script. However, we are talking about a conversion

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Pierre Sahores
Chipp, I just have to follow Richard, Andre, ... on this. The way i implement HTML5/CSS3/JS in my LC-server driven apps is not really complex at all and no far from funny to the end, something in between the feelings we had, as kids, in playing Lego and Meccano :D I use HTML templates build

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Terry Vogelaar
Hi Chipp, This sheds some other light upon this topic. I think the reason why it is such a torture to work with HTML5 is the lack of a good RAD tool. The guy who figures out how to do that, is a soon to be rich guy. A development environment with the ease of use LiveCode offers, that makes

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Terry and the rest, Just finished a nice lunch with Jerry and Chris-- two people who have very different takes on the subject, but both agree with Richard and most of you regarding one thing: Learning Javascript is important. Both these guys also know me, and know how I program. Like many of

the mouseText and Unicode: a 3-char puzzle

2011-06-21 Thread Slava Paperno
Bernd, Thanks for the good news, but it doesn't work for me. I must be doing something wrong. I am using the Russian text from Gogol that Tariel found. It is in the attached txt file, with the three problem chars. And I'm using the handler you posted on 6/16. It is in the other attached file.

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-21 Thread Chipp Walters
Google is planning for offline mode by the end of the summer. Certainly, each to his own-- what works for one, doesn't word for another. I still am not sure owning a Chromebook and iPad is mutually exclusive-- as I own both, and use both. Though I've been using my iPad quite a bit less lately...

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-21 Thread Colin Holgate
I take it you know there's a developer option in settings, where you can get OS updates as they happen? Not sure if that does the offline thing yet, I'm just doing an update now. On Jun 21, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Google is planning for offline mode by the end of the summer.

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Michael Kann wrote: I would like to be able to download a webpage or an entire website, with the css and javascript libraries that go with it. On your desktop you isolate all the parts that are personal to the webpage; basically everything you want to replace with your own material. Out

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-21 Thread Chipp Walters
I couldn't find the developer option is settings. Can you tell me where you found it? I did find an interesting article on Chromoting which is described as desktop sharting from your Chrombook to your PC. Evidently, it's in development right now, but the idea is you install an extension on your

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-21 Thread Chipp Walters
One other thing, when announced, Google mentioned they are not discouraging hacking the Chromebooks. So, I would imagine someone will figure out a way to run *some* sort of apps locally. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: the mouseText and Unicode: a 3-char puzzle

2011-06-21 Thread BNig
Slava, it worked on a self assembled russian text including em-dash and guillemets but not on your text. This works on your text: -- on mouseUp lock screen get word 4 of the clickCharChunk put it into tSelPos put 0 into tStartSel

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-21 Thread Colin Holgate
Click on the wrench, then About Chrome OS, and in the top bit of text in the dialog that appears is a More Info link, click that. You then have the choice of setting Stable, Beta, and Dev - Unstable. I'm on that one! On Jun 21, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I couldn't find the

Re: the mouseText and Unicode: a 3-char puzzle

2011-06-21 Thread BNig
Slava, I made a slider, make it rather wide and add a field where to put the htmlText into The slider has this code: --- on mouseDown set the endValue of me to the length of field TextToClick end mouseDown on scrollbarDrag tValue put round (tValue) into

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread John Patten
Hi All... FWIW, Nice site with some folks developing specific tools and API for html5 here: http://popcornjs.org/ Might be useful for someone trying to develop RevTool ;-) John Patten SUSD On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Michael Kann wrote: I would like to be

RE: the mouseText and Unicode: a 3-char puzzle

2011-06-21 Thread Slava Paperno
I like your definition... a poor man's Unicode. Cute. Thanks for everything, Slava -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of BNig Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:39 PM To:

RE: Unicode text in custom properties

2011-06-21 Thread Slava Paperno
As advised by the good folks on the list, custom properties are capable of storing Unicode text, but typing it in the Contents window of the property inspector is not a good idea. Instead, establish the text in a field first, then assign it to the custom property from the unicodeText of the field.

group name persisting

2011-06-21 Thread Nicolas Cueto
Hi. I use the group command to group three groups, rename that new group to gpABC, do some stuff to it, and then ungroup it. Oddly, if immediately afterwards I regroup the same three groups, the new group gets named gpABC instead of being automatically assigned an I'd number as happened the