On 07/30/2012 11:49 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
There's a standaloneSaved message that you can use for that purpose.
Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
Indeed, and I quote After a stack has been saved as a standalone
application it is reopened. This message is then sent to the mainstack
Does anyone know all the possible combinations of all screen sizes for
Android? I know there are only 8 iOS screen sizes, but I guess there may
be quite a few variants for Android. More than I suspect would allow for
separate images per layout.
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Hi
As promised I have collected my latest thoughts on how to handle the screen
density conundrum.
I think for the way the majority of people work in LiveCode then a single stack
needs to be able to scale to as many sizes and resolutions as possible. There
are going to be cases where that's
I vote for scale on launch. Just too much work building multiple interfaces
for each screensize. The tool should allow for setting the control size
and position based on density and/or pixel resolution.
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CEO, Altuit, Inc.
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I believe mainstack refers to your actual main stack, the one you loaded
into the IDE to do the build, not the standlone, which would be Devawriter
Pro/Contents/Mac OS/Devawriter Pro.
You can modify the plist file within Contents any time and the app will see
the changes next time It runs. I
I tend to agree. I can't help wondering if the first card could be scaled and
then kick off some non blocking process to do other cards.
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Software development services
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On 31/07/2012, at 5:30 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote:
I
I'll vote for scaling upon first load.
We've forgotten something here. When we get away from being tied to
pixels, we can give our users more choice.
My 72 year old father will want the chrome of an application (as well as
the content) visually much larger on the screen (pixel density and
On 31/07/2012, at 05:39 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
I tend to agree. I can't help wondering if the first card could be scaled and
then kick off some non blocking process to do other cards.
If your 'main' stack was an external stack that was loaded at runtime, the
first time the app ran you
If your 'main' stack was an external stack that was loaded at runtime, the
first time the app ran you could do a blanket resize (if necessary) of
objects and controls so that they at least matched the required pixel density
and device form factor (e.g. std phone, HD tablet) and then save
standaloneSaved:
After a stack has been saved as a standalone application it is reopened.
This message is then sent to the mainstack to allow custom build
automation.
What is reopened?
1.the original stack [at which point, if standalones have been
hived-off it is
difficult to
You need savingStandalone if you want to pre-twiddle. StandaloneSaved is for
post-twiddling like zipping and moving to a clients Dropbox share or building
an installer.
Cheers
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Software development services
mergExt - There's an external for that!
On 31/07/2012, at 6:38 PM,
Ideally, we should be able to use scalable vectors
for the Interface. Icons, backgrounds, Text...
A vector graphics interface created with all the excellent
capabilities of vector graphics in this platform, would be
a real delight to watch...
In a quick test of scaling polygons with a gradient
On 07/31/2012 12:01 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
You need savingStandalone if you want to pre-twiddle. StandaloneSaved is for
post-twiddling like zipping and moving to a clients Dropbox share or building
an installer.
That is some of the most useful information I have seen about the
On 31/07/2012, at 7:10 PM, Richmond wrote:
On 07/31/2012 12:01 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
You need savingStandalone if you want to pre-twiddle. StandaloneSaved is for
post-twiddling like zipping and moving to a clients Dropbox share or
building an installer.
That is some of the most
Hi everyone developing for Windows,
As you might know, Economy-x-Talk offers a Windows external (dll) to read icons
from ico and exe files. Displaying the icon of an exe or ico file is really
simple:
local myPictureData
extIconFromExe theFile,myPictureData,kName,kPW
set the text of img 1 to
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 3:26 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: (shortened to
express my idea)
So we know the density we are running at and now we have the choice of the
following:
- scale things
- create multiple substacks
- same as above but using stackfiles
- creating multiple stackfiles
Brian,
First off, welcome to the list group. After hypercard I dabbled with Flex for a
bit when it first came out and then came back to RunRev after a stint with
Frontier Runtime and a few years with SuperCard. I must say that all of my
experiences have led me to appreciating what RunRev is
Here is a start for some of the sizes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Android_devices
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http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
3mcgr...@comcast.net
On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:13 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:
Does anyone know all the possible combinations of all screen sizes for
Hello everyone,
Is it possible to change my main on-rev domain name? If so, how can I do that?
Regards,
Gregory
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Can the stack in the development environment set the data in the standalone
information section? I assume that these are actually a field in a stack.
and then send a message to somewhere to cause it to be built?
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Gregory,
do you mean the name before on-rev.com e.g. matthias.on-rev.com?
If so, you should contact On-Rev support at on-...@runrev.com and ask if they
would be so kind to do that for you.
Regards,
Matthias
Am 31.07.2012 um 16:00 schrieb Gregory Lypny gregory.ly...@videotron.ca:
Hello
On Monday, July 30, 2012, Colin Holgate wrote:
You make more sets of $700 than you would make through other distributors.
I think that drops off even in the general case as price goes up--even at
$100, I doubt that many people would buy something they hadn't first seen
or heard of elsewhere,
Hi Richard,
Sure, you can change the cRevStandalone properties and execute
send revSaveAsStandalone quote the short name of the topStack quote to
stack revSaveAsStandalone
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Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage:
Hi,
Not only that but if you want to mimic the test button, you use:
revIDEDeployAction
=)
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Mark Schonewille
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote:
Hi Richard,
Sure, you can change the cRevStandalone properties and execute
send revSaveAsStandalone
On 7/31/12 2:13 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:
Does anyone know all the possible combinations of all screen sizes for
Android? I know there are only 8 iOS screen sizes, but I guess there may
be quite a few variants for Android. More than I suspect would allow for
separate images per layout.
I just updated my ResTool plugin. http://buchwald.ca/lc/ResTool.livecode.zip
If you open the reference stack (via the Ref button) and go to card 2, you'll
see a table of many of the most popular Android (and iOS) devices, with
resolution and pixel density... as well as a chart of standard screen
Charles,
I really like that plugin!!! Thanks for it.
Cheers
andre
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Charles E Buchwald char...@buchwald.cawrote:
I just updated my ResTool plugin.
http://buchwald.ca/lc/ResTool.livecode.zip
If you open the reference stack (via the Ref button) and go to card
On 7/31/12 12:18 AM, Ueliweb wrote:
Thanks Randy
I doesen't change any setting.
But I make a check anyway its the same.
And when I try with other profils/ certificates it does not change.
Its at the moment every LC Project that I built again has the same Problem.
It looks that the Problem is
I have to think that the devs at RR have been mulling over how to address this
for the future. The problem will only get worse. It doesn't make sense for them
to leave this in the hands of the end developers to deal with.
I think that a coordinate system that is independent of density or
You may not need to change it, depending on your situation. You can always
create an alias wherever you host your DNS, in which case both names would
work.
Bob
On Jul 31, 2012, at 7:00 AM, Gregory Lypny wrote:
Hello everyone,
Is it possible to change my main on-rev domain name? If so,
Hi all,
In principle, I posted this message in the message thread:
The Screen Density Conundrum
but, in retrospective, there is more probabiblity that
itwould get an answer, if I posted it
in a new thread...
Ideally, we should be able to use scalable vectors
for the Interface. Icons,
Anyone know where I can download Jacque's excellent error plugin? I'm talking
about the one where you can feed it LiveCode error numbers and have it return
the English equivalent of those errors. :-) I saw her use it in one of the
videos from RevLive but I missed the download link (if there is
Yes it is - Have just iOS, Mac/Win
and if I try older LC Versions (GoldBundle) it it the same ! ? !
2012/7/31 J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com:
On 7/31/12 12:18 AM, Ueliweb wrote:
Thanks Randy
I doesen't change any setting.
But I make a check anyway its the same.
And when I try
My thoughts as well.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:39 AM, J. Landman Gay
jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:
It's unrealistic to design any kind of library that needs to rely on
fixed resolutions or dimensions.
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Hi Alejandro:
Maybe the answer depends on how you're scaling the graphic. I scale graphics
that contain gradients all the time and the gradient scales with the graphic.
FWIW, the UI components in tmControl are all vector-based controls, with
gradients -- no images (except for icons).
I was talking with Chris about this base on:
1) Mountain Lion now tries to do automatic tasks, like download stuff when
the lid is closed and you're on battery power, thus killing your battery
without you knowing. And now with Gatekeeper complaining about anything you
try and install-- and wt–,
On 7/31/12 2:38 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:
Anyone know where I can download Jacque's excellent error plugin? I'm
talking about the one where you can feed it LiveCode error numbers
and have it return the English equivalent of those errors. :-) I saw
her use it in one of the videos from RevLive
At what point
do the OS'es get so much in the users way that they're no longer good for
us legacy power users?
Apple won't give us the option if we want to deploy to the latest devices we
will need the latest desktop.
--
M E R Goulding
Software development services
Bespoke application
On 7/31/12 2:54 PM, Ueliweb wrote:
Yes it is - Have just iOS, Mac/Win
and if I try older LC Versions (GoldBundle) it it the same ! ? !
I can't think of anything you haven't already tried, but I'm pretty sure
the problem is in the profiles. Maybe you should just start over. Delete
everything
Great. Thanks!
On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:42 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
On 7/31/12 2:38 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:
Anyone know where I can download Jacque's excellent error plugin? I'm
talking about the one where you can feed it LiveCode error numbers
and have it return
On 7/31/12 5:39 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
I was talking with Chris about this base on:
1) Mountain Lion
...
there's still no Save As..
I haven't upgraded yet but I was just reading about this. The hue and
cry was so loud that Apple put save as back in, carefully hidden so
that those poor
I know EXACTLY how you feel. In Microsoft's case, they are obligated by
contract to put out a new version of everything they support with their
Software Assurance program. Imagine charging x for 3 years of software
assurance, and then not producing a major upgrade in that time. The outcry
I don't think I've ever seen the Test button enabled - is it a mobile
feature?
Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
Hi,
Not only that but if you want to mimic the test button, you use:
revIDEDeployAction
The future is progressive thinking. They are working diligently at making
things more intuitive and you don't get there without problems.
The more they work at it the better it will be and these are minor problems
considering what they will accomplish to make things easier quicker in
the next
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen the Test button enabled - is it a mobile
feature?
If you set the standalone applications settings to build for iOS or Android
and your test target to a simulator or device, that button will be
I like this thread (and will try to keep opinions short...).
IMO, long term, I don't think the OS developers care about legacy/power
users -- as you say, they think they know best. Many people have carelessly
tossed around some variation of the Gretsky quote Don't skate to where the
puck is,
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote:
So, I'm wondering... how long before we quit upgrading everything and start
sticking to a single legacy OS and/or programs?
I was pretty happy using Snow Leopard but Apple decided that you could only
ship Mac and iOS
Hi Scott,
Scott Rossi wrote
Maybe the answer depends on how you're scaling the graphic.
I scale graphics that contain gradients all the time and the
gradient scales with the graphic.
FWIW, the UI components in tmControl are all vector-based controls,
with gradients -- no images (except
That's good to know. Preview uses command-shift-S to Duplicate the current
document, but sure enough, holding down option as well changes it from
Duplicate to Save As…
On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:53 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
I haven't upgraded yet but I was just reading
I think your summary hits the nail on the head. They think they know best.
We are living in times where there is a common thinking that life--at both
societal and individual levels--should be engineered by experts.
I don't want to get caught up in that. When I reflect on my own designs I
Alejandro-
Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 4:55:00 PM, you wrote:
I scale the graphics by setting the points of the polygons,
set the point of grc id 1345 to tListofPoints
Probably, you are setting the rect, width, height and location
of these vector graphics, but this would not work for rotation,
Hi Mark,
Mark Wieder wrote
[snip]
Hmmm. How about creating the list of points, creating a new invisible
graphic, setting its points to the list, getting its rect, deleting
it, and then setting the rect of your graphic to the new rect, then
setting its points. That should scale the
This topic brings me memories of this documentary:
La Obsolescencia Programada Fabricados para no durar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chJT_uxSqNk
It's true. In our times too many people really believe that
they know best. And they have a title (not the real life
experiencies) to prove it.
When
It's easy to roll your own. Here's handy function:
function expandError tErr
-- expands LC runtime error numbers
--with explanatory text
-- requires sr()
repeat for each line e in tErr
put item 1 of e into errNbr
put item 2 of e into tLineNbr
put item 3 of e into
I don't see why you need to do this operation while scaling. It would appear to
be a different use case. If you do need to rotate and scale at the same time
then why not work out your scaling factor, rotate the points then scale the
rect. Same as Mark's idea but no extra graphic created.
On
And don't we all at some point think We know best. The problem is there are
many many people that think they know best in direct conflict with those of us
that actually do. ;-)
I have studied Fitz law for many years (20 plus years) in developing software
and systems for people who can not
Sorry for that long email. I didn't really think it was till i just saw it now.
Wow….
-- Tom McGrath III
http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
3mcgr...@comcast.net
On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
And don't we all at some point think We know best. The problem is there are
many
Hei Jacqueline,
Thanks
I will try it as soon as I have my Mac work machine at home again.
Because installing the certificates and 'trust', sync and verify them
needs connection to the ADC Account and that I didn't have at the
workstation machine yet - because I moved it to country side without
On 7/31/12 8:46 PM, Peter M. Brigham wrote:
It's easy to roll your own. Here's handy function:
Yup. :) I love the open nature of the LiveCode IDE.
One advantage of the stack over a single function is that it parses
output from both Console (iOS) and Terminal (Android) so that you can
On 7/31/12 9:51 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Sorry for that long email. I didn't really think it was till i just saw it now.
Wow….
Don't apologize. It was excellent. Well written and, more important, true.
Lion disrupted 30 years of computing habits for much the same reasons. I
hate it.
On 7/31/12 5:42 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 7/31/12 2:38 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:
Anyone know where I can download Jacque's excellent error plugin?
It's finally on RevOnline now, as LiveCode Error Lookup.
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HyperActive
Tom-
The Story of the Ribbon is online. It's an interesting thing to watch,
especially through all the pain of why new Word menu interfaces didn't
work, but it still doesn't make it right.
https://blogs.msdn.com/b/jensenh/archive/2008/03/12/the-story-of-the-ribbon.aspx?Redirected=true
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Alejandro-
Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 6:41:24 PM, you wrote:
This topic brings me memories of this documentary:
La Obsolescencia Programada Fabricados para no durar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chJT_uxSqNk
Thanks. That was great. I didn't know about the East German lightbulb
factory or the
Monte-
Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 7:05:14 PM, you wrote:
I don't see why you need to do this operation while scaling. It
would appear to be a different use case. If you do need to rotate
and scale at the same time then why not work out your scaling
factor, rotate the points then scale the rect.
On 7/31/12 10:06 PM, Ueliweb wrote:
Hei Jacqueline,
Thanks
I will try it as soon as I have my Mac work machine at home again.
Because installing the certificates and 'trust', sync and verify them
needs connection to the ADC Account and that I didn't have at the
workstation machine yet -
Hi Monte,
Monte Goulding wrote
I don't see why you need to do this operation while scaling.
It would appear to be a different use case. If you do need
to rotate and scale at the same time then why not work out
your scaling factor, rotate the points then scale the rect.
Same as Mark's idea
Look what happen when I rotate this graphic
filled with a gradient:
http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/alejandro/img/Gradients05.jpg
Why don't you rotate around the via property of the gradient. That way it will
be right.
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Software development services
Bespoke application
Interesting point of view, Thomas.
Thomas McGrath III-3 wrote
And don't we all at some point think We know best.
The problem is there are many many people that think
they know best in direct conflict with those of us that
actually do. ;-)
Here is a prophetic video from Edward Deming
In that case...
Monte Goulding wrote
Why don't you rotate around the via property
of the gradient. That way it will be right.
it would be a translation and a rotation
of these gradient properties.
Let's see how that works.
Al
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Hi Alejandro:
How I would do this -- 1) determine the offsets of all 3 gradient
coordinates from the graphic's loc, and 2) rotate the gradient coordinates
in alignment with however much the graphic is rotated, keeping in mind
offsets from the center.
Regards,
Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Thanks Thomas and everyone for your thoughts on this subject. Very
interesting to read!
I agree with much which has been said. I also agree with the old chestnut,
if it ain't broke, don't fix it. For over 20 years, Save As was good
enough for all– and now it's not.
I don't agree about whole
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