Re: [Topic][Dumbfounded] Is there a way to resize and move a group without touching the inside objects

I asked this exact question on StackOverflow a couple of weeks ago and before I was attacked by Mark for not asking the question he answered we were getting somewhere... I did create solution that works by retaining an offset for the child objects to use in their resizing. http://stackoverflow.

[OT - I remembered this time]

On May 9, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Richmond wrote: > Let's just say that if I find Jerry Garcia, John Lennon or Janis Joplin > anywhere near me in heaven, > I'll ask for a transfer to hell directly; especially with regard to Jerry > Garcia. Okay... Lil Wayne overdoses on drank for the last time. He f

Re: Data Grid Question

If you have everything working correctly now, no reason to remove the preferences file, but if you need to for some other reason its name is livecode.rev On mac its (I think) in /Users/yourUsername/Library/Preferences/RunRev/ In windows somewhere around here: C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Run

Re: Is there a textChanged property?

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 5/9/13 8:00 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: >> Thursday, May 9, 2013, 10:44:27 AM, you wrote: >>> I don't want to react to the text changing, but rather an event >>> (closing the group) triggered by a keystroke, which needs the handling >>> that w

Re: Drag and Drop

I use a transparent button that covers the area I want to be able to accept the drop. I use a dragEnter in the stack to show the button and then hide it after dropping or exiting. You can give the button a border as a visual indicator. Best regards, Marty Knapp Knappster Solutions LLC

Re: Is there a textChanged property?

On 5/9/13 8:00 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Thursday, May 9, 2013, 10:44:27 AM, you wrote: I don't want to react to the text changing, but rather an event (closing the group) triggered by a keystroke, which needs the handling that would normally occur on closefield (which resums several fie

Re: Drag and Drop

On 5/9/13 7:03 PM, Ray Horsley wrote: At the end of the day I'm wondering if this should be reported as a bug. It seems like something is getting hooked in memory. It's weird that I can drag a file onto my Livecode stack (which is one large image control with the drag handlers in it) and get n

Re: Drag and Drop

Ray- Thursday, May 9, 2013, 5:03:09 PM, you wrote: >- Thanks for the link to the article "Pinning Drag-and-Drop > to the Mat" but I had actually read through it yesterday when I > began wrestling with this. It, too, does not address dragging files > from the desktop into Livecode. Sorry -

Re: US at conference?

Andre- Thursday, May 9, 2013, 12:18:14 PM, you wrote: > I will solve that by not carrying any luggage!!! :-D Isn't that the same situation as when you arrived without your luggage? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing li

Re: Is there a textChanged property?

Richard- Thursday, May 9, 2013, 10:44:27 AM, you wrote: > I don't want to react to the text changing, but rather an event > (closing the group) triggered by a keystroke, which needs the handling > that would normally occur on closefield (which resums several fields > and does something with them,

Re: Drag and Drop

Many thanks to you all who responded to this thread I started earlier today. Unfortunately I still haven't resolved this issue so any other thought are appreciated. Here's a few responses to some of the ideas which were presented: - The mouseDown and mouseStillDown unfortunately don't work

Re: link to 6.0.1 build 1513

On 05/09/2013 05:49 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: The point is: there is no big red Download button on the main page. There is only a green "Learn More" button. Apparently, this is sufficient for people to lose interest. I told him clearly, I might be wrong and he should contact support while also

Re: Wikipedia's LiveCode page updated

Hi. I edited just a bit. I hope you do not mind. I removed the part about numerous big fixes, as I thought this was unnecessary and might possibly raise an eyebrow or two about whether such things were an ongoing problem with the program. Your writing, as far as the English goes, is just fin

How to copy a file so it creates missing folders in the path

Hi, I'm working on a Win/Mac application and trying to copy a Preferences stack from the defaultFolder to Application Data with a unique folder there to house it. I build a path, including the folder name, but revCopyFile silently fails every time. If I remove the desired folder from the path, it

Re: Is there a textChanged property?

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:44 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > The debugger is interfering because the focus is now in the script editor. > Instead, open the Message Watcher (Development menu) and run your handlers > normally. You'll see the messages in there. Wow. I removed the breakpoint, and this di

Re: [OT - I remembered this time]

Oh it could have been A, C, G, F. I forget :) g On 10/05/2013, at 6:39 AM, Timothy Miller wrote: >> >> All he could think about was >> A, D, F, G...A, D, F, G...A, D, F, G... > > I can't figure that one out. Hint? ___ use-livecode mailing list us

Wikipedia's LiveCode page updated

Hi, I just updated the LiveCode's entry in Wikipedia. Only added this information: -- LiveCode is currently in v. 6.0, which includes many enhancements and multiple bug fixes for deployment in every OS platform, including iOS and Android. Bibliography Holgate, Colin. LiveCode M

Re: link to 6.0.1 build 1513

Hi, It is not that much easier than I thought. The point is: there is no big red Download button on the main page. There is only a green "Learn More" button. Apparently, this is sufficient for people to lose interest. I told him clearly, I might be wrong and he should contact support while al

Re: [OT - I remembered this time]

I remember one time I asked Jerry for a recommendation for his local dentist here in San Francisco. He recommended a Dr. Payne, downtown. No, seriously. Dr. Payne was great, I don't remember a thing about the visit, except he had plants in his office. No, just plants. sqb On Thu, May 9, 2013 a

Re: link to 6.0.1 build 1513

On 5/9/13 4:20 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi, Today, RunRev lost a potential customer exactly for this reason. He asked: where can I download it? I told him he had to create an account and if he needed any explanations he could write to run...@support.com. He replied that if he has to write to

Re: link to 6.0.1 build 1513

Hi Chris, For 6.0.0 you needed an account to activate, but this should have been removed from 6.0.1 (as I understand from earlier e-mails from Kevin). "Learn More" doesn't mean "Download Here", does it? :-) -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering

Re: Context Menus - the look of the thing

Thanks Jacque for your (three) replies, Problem solved - it seems a lot clearer the way you explain it! Graham On 9 May 2013, at 22:20, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 5/9/13 2:54 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: >> I could not work out if each field >> would need its own button > > Forgot to answer that p

Re: link to 6.0.1 build 1513

On 05/09/2013 04:23 PM, John Dixon wrote: I should have been a little clearer... I meant the community edition... There was a green banner in the top left when I logged into my products and I downloaded the community edition 6.0.1 build 1513 from there the other day... the green banner has gon

Re: link to 6.0.1 build 1513

Richard, You beat me to it. Sorry for the repeat. Although I'm still curious about activating. Is that still necessary with the community edition? On May 9, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > John Dixon wrote: > > > I should have been a little clearer... I meant the community > > edi

Re: link to 6.0.1 build 1513

So I just noticed something. When I followed the links to the community edition, the download started for me automatically. There is also a link in case the download doesn't begin automatically. No creation of an account was necessary, even though you end up on a page where you can create an acc

Re: link to 6.0.1 build 1513

John Dixon wrote: > I should have been a little clearer... I meant the community > edition... There was a green banner in the top left when I > logged into my products and I downloaded the community edition > 6.0.1 build 1513 from there the other day... the green banner > has gone and the link (i

RE: link to 6.0.1 build 1513

Chris.. I thank you...:-) > Subject: Re: link to 6.0.1 build 1513 > From: cmsheffi...@icloud.com > Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 15:32:57 -0600 > To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Ah, sorry about that. Here's a direct link > http://www.runrev.com/downloads/livecode/6_0_1/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-

Re: link to 6.0.1 build 1513

Ah, sorry about that. Here's a direct link http://www.runrev.com/downloads/livecode/6_0_1/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-6_0_1-Mac.dmg. If you need Windows, simply sub "Mac.dmg" with "Windows.exe" Not sure why it's not showing on their site... On May 9, 2013, at 3:23 PM, John Dixon wrote: > Chri

RE: link to 6.0.1 build 1513

Chris... I should have been a little clearer... I meant the community edition... There was a green banner in the top left when I logged into my products and I downloaded the community edition 6.0.1 build 1513 from there the other day... the green banner has gone and the link (in orange) now onl

Re: link to 6.0.1 build 1513

Hi, Today, RunRev lost a potential customer exactly for this reason. He asked: where can I download it? I told him he had to create an account and if he needed any explanations he could write to run...@support.com. He replied that if he has to write to support at this stage already, meaning e

Re: link to 6.0.1 build 1513

You should be able to download from your account on runrev.com. Just make sure you're logged in, click the My Products button on the right, then select 6.0.1 from the menu under your product. On May 9, 2013, at 3:01 PM, John Dixon wrote: > Can someone please tell me where the link is to this

link to 6.0.1 build 1513

Can someone please tell me where the link is to this ?... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: ht

Re: Drag and Drop

OK, I accepted your dare and was surprised to see that it worked (didn't used to). Nice. Though you're still left with the limitations of working within a single stack, and no dragging in or out. But if the technique works for you, awesome. Speaking as someone who has rolled custom drag-and-drop

Re: Data Grid Question

Hi Mike, OK the messages were locked. When I unlocked them the datagrid works fine. It may make sense to delete the prefs files, but I don't know where they are. What are the names of the prefs files I need to delete? Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it. Joe __

Re: FmPro Migrator - how well does it work?

Okay, thanks. I wasn't sure who the developer was. I haven't been able to get the demo to work for me so far. I think I'm just not getting the process quite right. Still playing with it... On May 9, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: > I have used a demo once, and it worked for what

Re: FmPro Migrator - how well does it work?

I have used a demo once, and it worked for what I needed (quick and dirty extraction). There's demo versions here: http://www.fmpromigrator.com/downloads/demo_software/index.html You could also ask David Simpson directly, he's a cool guy and is also offering conversions as a service for pay, if

Re: [OT - I remembered this time]

On 05/09/2013 11:39 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: On May 9, 2013, at 7:26 AM, Ralph DiMola wrote: All he could think about was A, D, F, G...A, D, F, G...A, D, F, G... I can't figure that one out. Hint? Jerry Garcia dies, wakes up in a vast featureless space. Far in the distance he sees a ti

Re: Is there a textChanged property?

On 5/9/13 3:30 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:13 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Yes, probably. Hmm. Just tried this. Change something in the field, hit "d" to exit with a breakpoint set. Stepping through and into, nothing happens on "select empty" I suppose I *could* in openFi

[OT - I remembered this time]

On May 9, 2013, at 7:26 AM, Ralph DiMola wrote: > All he could think about was > A, D, F, G...A, D, F, G...A, D, F, G... I can't figure that one out. Hint? Jerry Garcia dies, wakes up in a vast featureless space. Far in the distance he sees a tiny dot. As he walks toward it, he can graduall

Re: Drag and Drop

On 05/09/2013 11:07 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Only you can know why you always use that technique, What? you expect me to know my own mind? LOL. I use that technique as I tend to use a single stack, or a signle stack with associated palettes. but with grab, there's no way to act upon events

Re: Is there a textChanged property?

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:13 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Yes, probably. Hmm. Just tried this. Change something in the field, hit "d" to exit with a breakpoint set. Stepping through and into, nothing happens on "select empty" I suppose I *could* in openField "set the origVal of the target to th

Re: [Topic][Dumbfounded] Is there a way to resize and move a group without touching the inside objects

[ tags on posts are starting to get scary ] Hi Tom: Here's some group scaling code I've been meaning to post for a while now. All it does is scale objects proportionally to a (locked) parent group. If objects extend beyond the boundaries of the group, their positions and sizes should stay intact.

Re: Context Menus - the look of the thing

On 5/9/13 2:54 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: I could not work out if each field would need its own button Forgot to answer that part. You only need one button. It will pop up under the mouse whenever it's called. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Softwar

Re: Context Menus - the look of the thing

On 5/9/13 2:54 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: What I want is a single 'mouseDown' handler in my mainstack that checks if the right mouse button had been pressed in an editable field and then provides Edit-menu type services to that field (the target). Could I use a button menu for that? Sure, easily.

Re: Is there a textChanged property?

On 5/9/13 3:08 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:19 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: The line of script will simulate tabbing out if the insertion point is in a field. The engine will then send either a closefield or exitfield, depending on whether the text has changed. Ahh, now I see

Re: Drag and Drop

> On 5/9/13 12:42 PM, "Richmond" wrote: > >> On 05/09/2013 09:01 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: >>> Ray Horsley writes: >>> What am I missing to get drag/drop working consistently? >>> You might also want to look at >>> >>> >>>

Re: Is there a textChanged property?

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:19 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > The line of script will simulate tabbing out if the insertion point is in a > field. The engine will then send either a closefield or exitfield, depending > on whether the text has changed. Ahh, now I see. So I don't even really need a con

Re: Drag and Drop

Only you can know why you always use that technique, but with grab, there's no way to act upon events/messages while grab is active (thus you can't do cursor updates and provide user feedback), and you can't "grab" an object across stacks. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/

Re: [Master Class] tags

Surely this discussion is missing the Most Important tag of all. I know that I have received much help and instructions from the Master Class over the years. And this forum would be very remiss if this tag was not included. ___ use-livecode mailing lis

Re: Context Menus - the look of the thing

Thanks I seem to have fallen foul of the description of menus in the LC docs. What I want is a single 'mouseDown' handler in my mainstack that checks if the right mouse button had been pressed in an editable field and then provides Edit-menu type services to that field (the target). Could I use

Re: Anyone else experiencing crashes with Commercial Build 1513?

I get hangs at least four times a day. I work hard, I play hard, I code hard. So I figure it comes with the territory. But it is annoying. Save often and then save again. Then Zip/compress the file at every big change and then back that up as well……. Oh yeah, and save again…. Tom -- Tom McGra

Re: Drag and Drop

On 05/09/2013 09:01 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Ray Horsley writes: What am I missing to get drag/drop working consistently? You might also want to look at Why do I always just use on mouseDown g

[Topic][Dumbfounded] Is there a way to resize and move a group without touching the inside objects

Is there a way to resize and move a scrolling group without touching the inside contents of that group??? This is on mobile and I need to resize a scrolling group based on the position of the UI (navbar and toolbar when in portrait and landscape) when the UI changes and then after the scrolling

Re: [OT - I remembered this time]: here we go

That's a very clever piece of prose Mark! Did you write it? Sometimes the funniest stories are the true ones. This actually happened to me at a gig a while back. We finished playing our first set and were out in the audience chatting to people. A young girl of about 8 or 9 years old came up to

Re: Is there a textChanged property?

On 5/9/13 1:48 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:12 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Depending on your scripts, it may work to add this to your keystroke macro: if the selectedfield is not empty then select empty That should give you either a closefield or an exitfield. The situa

Re: US at conference?

I will solve that by not carrying any luggage!!! :-D On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Ian Wood writes: > > > Don't forget your luggage... > > Ooo... snap! > > -- > Mark Wieder > mwie...@ahsoftware.net > > > > ___ > use-livecode

Re: Is there a textChanged property?

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:12 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > Depending on your scripts, it may work to add this to your keystroke macro: > > if the selectedfield is not empty then select empty > > That should give you either a closefield or an exitfield. The situation I need to catch is something

Re: Is there a textChanged property?

On 5/9/13 12:44 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: I don't want to react to the text changing, but rather an event (closing the group) triggered by a keystroke, which needs the handling that would normally occur on closefield (which resums several fields and does something with them, with computation costs

Re: US at conference?

Ian Wood writes: > Don't forget your luggage... Ooo... snap! -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription prefer

Re: Drag and Drop

Ray Horsley writes: > What am I missing to get drag/drop working consistently? You might also want to look at -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net

Re: [OT - I remembered this time]: here we go

ok i just spit coffee out my nose on this one! thanks jeff On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > My friend and ex bandmate David Brewer is a bagpiper and told me this > story. > > As a bagpiper, I play many gigs. Recently I was asked by a funeral > director to play at a grav

Re: are my datagrids misbehaving, or is it me.

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Your problem is that you are using numbers as column labels. Don't > remember the reason why but that causes problems with Datagrids. I changed > one line in your script: > > *put* item theCol of "A,B,C,D" into line theCol of columnLabels >

Re: Is there a textChanged property?

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 5/8/13 9:44 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: >> Or is this just a hangover from my 8 bit days with BASIC interpreters? > I'm not sure why trapping every keyUp would be less intensive than using the > built-in textchanged message, which is optimiz

Re: are my datagrids misbehaving, or is it me.

Your problem is that you are using numbers as column labels. Don't remember the reason why but that causes problems with Datagrids. I changed one line in your script: *put* item theCol of "A,B,C,D" into line theCol of columnLabels ...and everything worked fine Pete lcSQL Software

Re: Anyone else experiencing crashes with Commercial Build 1513?

On 5/9/13 9:44 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:52 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Hanging while attempting to quit the IDE is so common I barely notice when I force quit; it's been this way since I started last year. That's unusual, I think something else is wrong. Apps won't qu

Re: Is there a textChanged property?

On 5/8/13 9:44 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: I know about the textChanged message, but . . . I have forms with many fields. I have a closeField handler that sets a flag when something changes, but this only triggers when leaving the field. My assistant just discovered a bug that I hadn't-- I have fi

Re: Context Menus - the look of the thing

On 5/9/13 3:32 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: PS - the LC docs tell one to set the individual buttons' autoArm and armBorder properties to true. I had to do this with the LC Message Box because I couldn't find these properties in any other way. I naively thought that in LC 6.0.1 you can reveal (and t

Re: Anyone else experiencing crashes with Commercial Build 1513?

On 5/9/13 3:00 AM, André Bisseret wrote: Thank you Shawn Seems not be my case. And I get no crash log I get a completely empty screen and have to force switch off (pushing the button (top right of the keyboard) for several seconds) Is it a hang? If you're on Mac, look in Console at the "System

FmPro Migrator - how well does it work?

I'm trying to find out more about this application that's available in the RunRev store. Has anybody used it? Does it work well? I am *really* wanting to convert my company's current FileMaker database to a LiveCode application using MySQL as the database. The current FileMaker implementation i

Re: Drag and Drop

On May 9, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Ray Horsley wrote: > I've never used this feature before and no matter how I set it up it seems > kind of sporadic. The goal is to drag an image file (jpg, jpeg, png, etc.) > from the desktop onto a card, get the path to it and ultimately import it > into the stack

Re: Anyone else experiencing crashes with Commercial Build 1513?

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:52 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: >> >> Hanging while attempting to quit the IDE is so common I barely notice when >> I force quit; it's been this way since I started last year. > > That's unusual, I think something else is wrong. Apps won't quit if there are > pending messa

RE: [OT - I remembered this time]: here we go

HA HA HA!! My brother plays bass. Thanks all for the ammunition. I've had to listen to his accordion jokes since forever. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.co

Re: automated iOS rejection: Non-public API usage

kellymdempewolf wrote: > Is there any way that I can work around this to fix it in my own app in the  > meantime? Sadly not, this is why I suggested some sort of community supported process as a safety net for Apple rule changes. Your app almost certainly doesn't use the UDID but the LiveCode

Re: automated iOS rejection: Non-public API usage

Is there any way that I can work around this to fix it in my own app in the meantime? I have an app that needs to be sent to iTunes but I have the same rejection happening! (I have subscribed to the bug report so I'll see when it's fixed but for now I need to get the app sent!) Thanks! -- Vie

Push Payload

Guys, This has long been a bit annoying, but it will soon become much more annoying. On iOS, the only way your LC app gets the payload from a push notification is if either a) the app is running when the message comes over or b) the user opens the app in response to the push alert appearing on the

Drag and Drop

I've never used this feature before and no matter how I set it up it seems kind of sporadic. The goal is to drag an image file (jpg, jpeg, png, etc.) from the desktop onto a card, get the path to it and ultimately import it into the stack. I've place an image control on the card which is the s

Re: Context Menus - the look of the thing

Are you trying to construct a stack menu? That is, are you laying out a stack that will pop up when you right-click on something? Are you aware that there are other ways of popping up a contextual menu that leave all the formatting to the engine and the operating system? You really only need a s

Re: Beginners questions subject headers

I think anything BESIDES beginner questions should start with [OT], then it'd be easy to find those emails made by people whom still are capable of receiving help :-P On 07.05.2013, at 15:19, Andre Garzia wrote: > I think the best subject for a beginner question would be something like > > [

Re: You've had Open Source LiveCode for One month

Hi Mark Thanks. I'm sure you're correct about it taking time with respect to open-source strategies. Actually, the App doesn't need to have been written with LiveCode Community Edition, I'm just trawling to get a few more entries for 1001 things to do with LiveCode. (I still have a long way to

Re: You've had Open Source LiveCode for One month

Hi Pete, Surely, some people whill have finished something, but I think that the adaptation of open-source strategies will take some time. I didn't have any time to complete an app of my own recently and once I do, I don't know how I will make it available yet. -- Best regards, Mark Schonew

Re: [OFF] The Competition

On 8 May 2013, at 20:27, "Lynn Fredricks" wrote: > You want to talk about competition? What about Director (cue sound of > crickets...)? ;-) Diss Adobe but not the venerable Director :-) Adobe had an opportunity to make Director the industry standard creative multimedia authoring tool (as it

You've had Open Source LiveCode for One month

... so surely one or two of you have completed Apps that you want to show to the world? Just send me a screenshot and a brief description and I'll do the rest. Regards Peter http://LiveCode1001.blogspot.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@l

Context Menus - the look of the thing

I've never built a context menu up to now, and I'm struggling a bit. I have made it work with the aid of the LC docs, but my popup doesn't look exactly like a conventional menu. I need to know which font, style and size are needed, and the exact spacing (the size of the underlying buttons and th

Re: Anyone else experiencing crashes with Commercial Build 1513?

Thank you Shawn Seems not be my case. And I get no crash log I get a completely empty screen and have to force switch off (pushing the button (top right of the keyboard) for several seconds) André Le 8 mai 2013 à 21:36, Shawn Blc a écrit : > Bug Report: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?

Re: [OT - I remembered this time]: here we go

That bagpipe one has been on the net for years :) This three piece rock band were very keen to do well at their gig because they'd heard a big record producer was in the audience. If he liked them they'd be sure to become the next big thing. During the first song the lead guitarist was strummin